Talk:2024 in Nordic music

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On 9 February 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2024 in Scandinavian music to 2024 in Nordic music. The result of the discussion was moved.

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@Deb, In my edit that you reverted in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_in_Scandinavian_music&diff=1209561132&oldid=1209111315 I fixed "CS1 errors: dates" (one date was presented in an invalid form, the reference #31 looks like '"Jussi Raittinen on kuollut". yle. 14 February 2024language=fi. Retrieved 20 February 2024. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)' - it was a pipe character missing between "2024" and "language") and removed wikilinks to dates according to the rules stipulated in WP:Linking#Chronological items, see also Help:Date formatting and linking, while other changes were not substantial (removal of trailing whitespaces). If you disagree with my changes, please remove wikilinks from dates in the article 2024 in Scandinavian music. Thank you! Maxim Masiutin (talk) 14:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I've fixed the ref formatting. Linking dates is fine as long as they are for purely chronological articles, viz. "in intrinsically chronological articles (1789, January, and 1940s), links to specific month-and-day, month-and year, or year articles are not discouraged". This is one such article. Deb (talk) 15:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@Deb ok, thank you for letting me know, and thank you for fixing the date format error caused by missing pipe character. Maxim Masiutin (talk) 18:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 13 February 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. – robertsky (talk) 23:40, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

– Also: Category:Years in Scandinavian music → Category:Years in Nordic music.
Reason:

Scandinavian countries = Denmark, Norway, Sweden
Nordic countries = Finland, Iceland, Scandinavian countries (i.e. Denmark, Norway, Sweden)

Yet, out of the 148 pages in Category:Years in Scandinavian music

138 mention Finland, and
113 mention Iceland.

That's why I think it should be "Nordic" in these pages. Alternatively, we can remove all mentions of Iceland and Finland from these 141 pages.
As a sidenote, neither Nordic music nor Scandinavian music has an article (they just redirect to Nordic folk music), but some related articles exist for Nordic music (title search) (i.e. Nordic Music Prize, Nordic Music Days, Nordic folk music, Nordic popular music, Traditional Nordic dance music, MTV Europe Music Award for Best Nordic Act) but not for Scandinavian music (title search).
JH.Ahokas (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2026 (UTC) – edited comment and added other pages JH.Ahokas (talk) 04:27, 13 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:59, 20 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 08:48, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

Oppose, mainly on the grounds that it's unnecessary and is going to mean a bit of work, but I don't specifically object either. I understand the reasoning, though I don't agree with it: the Wikipedia article Scandinavia says, in the opening paragraph, that this can include Finland, Iceland and the Faroes. Deb (talk) 12:07, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

"is going to mean a bit of work" – Could you specify? Page moves are already automated with bots, and if there is no additional work besides changing one word in these three places on every page:

The following is a list of notable events and releases in Scandinavian music in 2024
[[Category:2024 in music|Scandinavian]]
{{Year nav topic5|2024|Scandinavian music}}

then these are easily automated changes and can be requested at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks.
"that this can include Finland, Iceland and the Faroes" – Yes, it can; some sources include them, while others don't, so there's some uncertainty there. However, every source includes all five as the Nordic countries; there is no disagreement or uncertainty about that. For example, Category:Scandinavia includes only the 3 countries, while Category:Nordic countries includes all 5 of them. I think we should choose the word with no uncertainty around it rather than the one with some uncertainty.
As another sidenote, I just noticed that Category:Nordic music exists but Category:Scandinavian music doesn't. JH.Ahokas (talk) 14:15, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

Oppose. Unnecessary and unclear. We do not live in Wikiworld, we live in the real world (well most of us do); so it does not matter how the Wikipedia article on Scandinavia defines it. In the real world, Scandinavia includes Finland. As for "Nordic", Hitler thought that Germans were Nordic. And what about the Baltic states; surely they are just as Nordic as the Swedes and the Finns.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:54, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
The ambiguity of Scandinavia mentioned in the WP article is sourced and reflects actual usage. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, Scandinavia commonly refers to the region including present-day Norway, Sweden, and Denmark, but may be used more broadly to include also Finland, Iceland, and the Faroe Islands. In contrast, Nordic is defined as Of or relating to a geographical or cultural region including Scandinavia, Finland, and Iceland.

The racial sense of Nordic is labelled in OED with "spec.", meaning that it means the Germanic race only in specialized contexts. This is not one of those contexts. As for the Baltics, you won't find reliable sources labeling the three Baltic states as Nordic. Some actors in Estonia have sought to brand Estonia as Nordic, but this has gained little acceptance internationally. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:45, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Support, these articles mention Icelandic albums and artists which are not Scandinavian. Icelanders don't typically think of themselves as being scandinavian. Though technically, as Deb points out, the definition of Scandinavia can be construed to include Iceland, the people of Iceland don't think of themselves as such. --Gurkubondinn (talk) 12:02, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
Thanks for that insight. Deb (talk) 12:13, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
We tend to think of ourselves as a nordic country (Icelandic: Norðurlandaþjóð), and while we don't often use the word Skandínavía (it mostly comes across as a loanword from Danish), we just refer to the Scandinavian countries as hinar norðurlandaþjóðirnar (lit. 'the other Nordic countries') -- which isn't really technically correct because that includes Finland as well!

This isn't something that comes off as offensive or anything though, so if the consus is to keep the current titles, that's perfectly fine (from the perspective of an Icelandic person). --Gurkubondinn (talk) 12:28, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
Support as less ambiguous. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:46, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Finland, WikiProject Denmark, WikiProject Years, WikiProject Regional and national music, WikiProject Lists, WikiProject Iceland, WikiProject Sweden, and WikiProject Norway have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 08:49, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

Support - Scandinavia is sometimes used more broadly, but Nordic unambiguously includes Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Iceland. Given that these articles cover Finnish and Icelandic artists, the Nordic descriptor is more precise and clearer for readers. Zzz plant (talk) 12:41, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
Support – Although Scandinavia may sometimes include Finland and Iceland, it more specifically refers to just Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. If these articles include Finnish and Icelandic artists, the scope of the articles should be changed to reflect that it is discussing all Nordic music. Uffda608 (talk) 20:04, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
Support per nom. If these articles cover Finnish and Icelandic artists (which it seems they do), then the titles should reflect that. Paintspot Infez (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
Support per WP:PRECISE. Bait30 ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 20:39, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Support per nom. Hugo P. Behrmann (☎) 19:26, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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