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No consensus, much confusion. -- Beland (talk) 09:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

It's become clear with the more recent announcements/reports that this service is effectively a rebranding/relaunch of the ESPN TV Everywhere platform with a DTC offering rather than a truly "new" offering. Given that this is also succeeding ESPN's existing TVE platform (formerly WatchESPN), I think it would make more sense and be less redundant for it to be covered within the context of that service's history instead, rather than place undue weight on Disney's marketing of this as a "new" service. ViperSnake151  Talk  16:09, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

agree <<chramo94>> (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
If it is possible, we could do a tri-merger (I am new, so this may not be possible) between the ESPN (streaming service), ESPN+, and WatchESPN articles. We could split the combined article into three main sections: WatchESPN, then ESPN+, and finally ESPN (streaming service), which by the way, is launching by the end of the month (Source: ) Fnnychici2234 (talk) 22:52, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
agree to merge ESPN (streaming service), ESPN+, and WatchESPN articles <<chramo94>> (talk) 01:50, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
Agreed 2600:100C:B28C:6B43:F919:6A9:F66E:E9A1 (talk) 21:54, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
I wonder if it makes more sense to merge this with ESPN+. It seems like ESPN+ is becoming a lower tier of this new service. Esolo5002 (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
Definitely agree. ESPN+ is essentially being renamed (to drop the "+") and getting an additional premium tier. – Brojam (talk) 19:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
The tricky thing there is that even today, ESPN announced new programming that is described as being part of "ESPN+" and is launching alongside the revamped streaming offerings. So it seems like, while the current ESPN+ subscription product will become ESPN Select, "ESPN+" will still be a programming strand/stream of some kind, presumably to identify programs that are unique to ESPN's DTC streaming products (as ESPN Select will still carry some ESPN/ABC simulcasts, as ESPN+ has from time to time). All of which to say, it might carry value as a separate programming article even if the discussion of the streaming platform itself is merged into another article. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 19:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
If the "ESPN+ name will remain as a programming strand", then I would be hesitant to merge that article and probably treat it like just another one of ESPN's channels. Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
I think I'd be OK with this. Perhaps – at the risk of bikeshedding – as "ESPN (streaming platform)" or even just "ESPN (streaming)"? It obviously would encompass both TVE and the OTC service, but "WatchESPN" as a brand name isn't really a thing anymore. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 19:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
Here’s what I think of this:
1. ESPN+ needs to be a article inside of this article (similar to how other services are like showtime (streaming service) is inside of the bigger paramount+ article
2. WatchESPN is just the tv everywhere service formerly for ESPN, so that covers the cable aspect of this
3. ESPN3 (another service similar to ESPN+) is the cable streaming service so I think ESPN3 needs to merge to ESPN+ and put the overall product into this article and put WatchESPN in this article in the history section Hoopstercat (talk) 23:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
Oppose: ESPN+ was launched as a standalone offering and has its own history. Showtime, the channel, still has an article for the same reason. "WatchESPN" evolved into what is vaguely promoted on-air with the verbiage "the ESPN app" and still exists as a concept. Your proposed hierarchy of ESPN3 is effectively original research because it combines concepts using personal assumptions. ViperSnake151  Talk  07:07, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
OPPOSION back: WatchESPN is not currently a brand so it would make sense for this to be the same article. Showtime on the other hand has been around for a long time before the Paramount + merger so it makes sense it has its own page for itself. ESPN 3 is an online version of ESPN so it makes sense it’s bundled with ESPN+ as most of the ESPN3 content is on ESPN+. The ESPN app also includes all the ESPN+ content so it will probably get merged with ESPN but WatchESPN was free and this upcoming service is $10-$29.99 dollars a month and they’ll have their own histories. 47.35.88.112 (talk) 13:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
WatchESPN/the ESPN app is not free. It requires an ESPN subscription through a television provider. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:25, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
This discussion kind of died out, but I'd actually like to, depending on how it plans out, propose a different merger target: ESPN+. With how it's being treated as part of this transition, the new service is clearly a superset of it and ESPN's linear content. ViperSnake151  Talk  16:40, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Oppose that as well, as I stated above at 20:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC), if the "ESPN+ name will remain as a programming strand", then I would be hesitant to merge that article and we should instead now treat it like just another one of ESPN's channels. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
For the moment, I agree with Zzyzx11. Let's wait and see. My understanding is that ESPN+ will continue and not change names, at least for a little while. Esolo5002 (talk) 17:07, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
  • So the service has launched, and it looks like the main full-freight plan is called ESPN Unlimited. I suggest that this article remain now under this name, with ESPN+ becoming ESPN Select under its contractural service. Nathannah • 📮 01:07, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
    No, at least as long as the listings on https://www.espn.com/watch/ and https://www.espn.com/watch/schedule continue to use "ESPN+" instead of "ESPN Select" -- again like just another one of ESPN's channels. Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:45, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
    The ESPN+ branding continues to be used Esolo5002 (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
    I would say that this article should include the different tiers like ESPN Select and Unlimited as plan tiers, but as for ESPN+ I would treat it as a streaming only hub for now like ESPN3 is for tv providers Hoopstercat (talk) 03:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
  • The other thing to note, re this merge, is that the ESPN direct-to-consumer service and ESPN TVE remain distinct. If you have TVE you won't get access to the WWE PLE (or whatever they are called). Another reason why a merge shouldn't happen anywhere in this case. Esolo5002 (talk) 23:43, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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Requested move 31 August 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Although participation was limited, editors opposing this move are both more numerous and presented stronger arguments than the lone supporter, so I read this as producing consensus against the requested move. (closed by non-admin page mover) Toadspike [Talk] 22:13, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

ESPN (streaming service) → ESPN DTCESPN DTC – I am seeing "ESPN DTC" being used in more news and reliable sources, plus ESPN's own press releases. I am also seeing "ESPN direct-to-consumer service" as an alternative. But in any case, these reliable sources do not use parenthetical disambiguation like we do, and we should instead use the same natural disambiguation title that they use to disambiguate from the original ESPN channel. Zzyzx11 (talk) 16:46, 31 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:19, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Are we certain that this only applies to just the unlimited tier or the select tier as well? (Like how does this tie in with ESPN+?), like is that still separate at this point? Hoopstercat (talk) 01:08, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
Oppose. Sourcing clearly states that the public-facing brand of the service is simply ESPN; in fact, this was a point of emphasis. Inasmuch as disambiguation has been needed, advertising has tended to use "the ESPN app" instead. DTC appears to only be used in trade publications and not as a public-facing brand. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 01:25, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Oppose. Far less recognisable, far less commonly used, and those rather than the corporate branding are the criteria for natural disambiguation. No policy based reason to move. Andrewa (talk) 01:27, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
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Requested move 22 February 2026

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 00:46, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

ESPN (streaming service) → ESPN UnlimitedESPN Unlimited – ESPN is now calling it ESPN Unlimited, rather than ESPN. Bryce M (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 04:43, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

  • Skeptical. And what are independent reliable sources calling it? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:59, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose. As per BarrelProof, where are the independent reliable sources? More importantly, there is still the option on the service to purchase the "ESPN Select" plan, that is cheaper and has less programming than the full "ESPN Unlimited" plan. And notwithstanding my argument in the previous RM discussion, I just looked at the last paragraph that promotes the service on the most recent press release that ESPN just published (as of this post), and they use "ESPN App" three times and "ESPN DTC Unlimited" once, but not the exact phrase "ESPN Unlimited". This is the same on the other most recent press releases on ESPN's Press Room website. Thus, to avoid confusion for WP:PRECISION purposes, "ESPN Unlimited" should probably only refer to that higher tier service plan. Zzyzx11 (talk) 19:46, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
Note: WikiProject Disney, WikiProject Television, and WikiProject Sports have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 04:44, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
comment - what citations really show that this is the name of the service as a whole, and not a part of the service? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
I'm still not seeing any evidence that "ESPN Unlimited" refers to the service as a whole. Including the links I previously stated, I am also looking at the service at https://plus.espn.com/ right now: if you scroll down to the "Choose your plan" section and use the drop-down menus to compare plans, there is still the option to purchase the cheaper "ESPN Select" plan (either with or without the Disney bundle) instead of the "ESPN Unlimited" plan. Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:58, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
Seems like it's not a suitable title, unless this becomes an article on the premium service. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:02, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Oppose - I looked on ESPN's website and they say they sometimes still use ESPN+. We may need to wait longer for the new name. Guz13 (talk) 02:18, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

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