Talk:Epano Phournos tholos
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GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Epano Phournos tholos/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 05:51, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 16:31, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Prose
- As an initial comment, I would suggest adding the relevant language template ("Use...English"). MSincccc (talk) 16:34, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- Done. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Description
- "which showed no sign of having been worked; it shows no evidence" → "which showed no sign of having been worked, showing no evidence"
- This is a material change which I don't think is for the better. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- "a total of nine tholoi were constructed at Mycenae" → "nine tholoi were constructed at Mycenae"
- Likewise, "a total of" is doing work here -- it's emphasising that this happened over time rather than in one event. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
MSincccc (talk) 07:11, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- Contents
- We could link to Grave robbery.
- We already link to archaeological looting, so we probably don't need two links to what is basically the same thing in this context. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- "There was also no evidence of repeated use, as was common in tholos tombs outside Mycenae, leading Sinclair Hood" → "There was also no evidence of repeated use, as was common in tholos tombs outside Mycenae, which led Sinclair Hood"
- Not sure there's much of a problem or improvement here. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- "around fifty from Late Helladic III," → "around fifty from the Late Helladic III period," (Restores the noun for parallelism and clarity)
- That breaks the parallelism, and I don't think there's any improvement in clarity. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
MSincccc (talk) 11:01, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- Archaeological investigations
- "noted seeing it during his visit of 1806" → "noted seeing it during his visit in 1806"
- Not sure there's much of a problem or improvement here. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- "did not record any finds from the tomb, nor did any from it enter" → "did not record any finds from the tomb, nor did any enter"
- "a glass wine-bottle" → "a glass wine bottle"
- Drop the hyphen?
- Hyphen is fine in British English, particularly when we have two independent modifiers on the noun, as here. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Drop the hyphen?
- "in the early summer of 1950 during work on the Tomb of Clytemnestra" → "in the early summer of 1950, during work on the Tomb of Clytemnestra,"
- Not sure there's much of a problem or improvement here. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Bottom line
- UndercoverClassicist That's all from me for the prose. A fine read, that I enjoyed. A few minor suggestions above. Best, MSincccc (talk) 12:07, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- @MSincccc: thank you. I am not very available at the moment, unfortunately, but will get to this when I can -- probably next week. UndercoverClassicist T·C 12:42, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- No worries at all — just pick it up whenever you’ve got the time. Next week sounds fine. Best, MSincccc (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for your patience: now back to you. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist Thank you for your responses. The spot check to follow. MSincccc (talk) 18:04, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for your patience: now back to you. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:59, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- No worries at all — just pick it up whenever you’ve got the time. Next week sounds fine. Best, MSincccc (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- @MSincccc: thank you. I am not very available at the moment, unfortunately, but will get to this when I can -- probably next week. UndercoverClassicist T·C 12:42, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Did you know nomination
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- ... that the Epano Phournos tholos tomb appears to have been robbed during the Late Bronze Age, only a few centuries after it was built?
- Source: Wace, Alan; Hood, M. Sinclair; Cook, John Manuel (1953). "The Epano Phournos Tholos Tomb". The Annual of the British School at Athens. Mycenae 1939–1952. 48: 19–29. doi:10.1017/S0068245400012466. JSTOR 30096964. Link: https://www.jstor.org/stable/30096964
- ALT1: ... that the Epano Phournos tholos tomb may have been used only once, even though Mycenaean tholos tombs were normally used for multiple burials?
- Source: Cavanagh, William (2008). "Death and the Mycenaeans". In Shelmerdine, Cynthia (ed.). The Cambridge Companion to the Aegean Bronze Age. Cambridge University Press. pp. 327–341. doi:10.1017/CCOL9780521814447.015. ISBN 978-1-139-00189-2. Link: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-companion-to-the-aegean-bronze-age/death-and-the-mycenaeans/948ABCACBC9BFCCC693BA92D75334E65
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Defense of Beijing
Improved to Good Article status by UndercoverClassicist (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Sxchen1110 (talk) 17:44, 2 July 2026 (UTC).
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Overall:
Promoted to GA recently, long enough, neutral, and plagiarism free. Hooks cited and interesting; I prefer the former. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:46, 5 July 2026 (UTC) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:46, 5 July 2026 (UTC)