Talk:Neptune All Night
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A fact from Neptune All Night appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 April 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 13:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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that a 1989 WHYY science show featured an unusually long signal delay?
- Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-08-24-ca-1464-story.html "Traveling at the speed of light, the signals that make up those photographs will take four hours and six minutes to traverse the 2.7 billion miles separating Neptune and Earth."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Planting a Rainbow
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Austin Staats
- Comment: @Sammi Brie: you're into TV stations, so you might find this interesting.
RoySmith (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC).
@RoySmith: You have pinged the right girl... WHYY-TV is one of my GAs! Double QPQ present. I made a couple of tweaks, one of which is a publication title worth repairing and the other adding a newspaper ref listing some of the panelists. Nothing looks out of place with text or copyvio or needing citations. I'm wondering about the hook, and I'm also wondering if labeling it WHYY is gonna scare viewers off. (Notice I almost never use call letters now?) I have a further question because "four hours, six minutes" isn't "six hours, four minutes" as in the article which also needs to be resolved. Perhaps some other rephrasing like... Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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that pictures on a 1989 science TV show arrived after a signal delay of over (four/six) hours?
I fixed the time delay (thanks for catching that). I like keeping the hook shorter, so how about we just drop the station name:
- ALT2: ... that a 1989 science show featured an unusually long signal delay?
That's more like it. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:37, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith and Sammi Brie: do you think this would be a good April Fool's hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Bottom?
@Praemonitus I don't usually worry about ratings, but I do think your "bottom" rating underestimates this topic. The description of bottom includes things like "junk" and "crank". This was either. Science education and promotion is important. I'm old enough to remember watching blurry black & white images of the Apollo astronauts walking on the moon in real time. Events like that helped shape a lifetime of curiosity and interest. Neptune All Night was the same thing for the next generation. I'n not saying it was the most important thing to have ever happened, but surely it was more important than the junk and the crank? RoySmith (talk) 22:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. "Public education and outreach" gets a low rating. Thanks. Praemonitus (talk) 23:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Neptune All Night/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: RoySmith (talk · contribs) 17:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 14:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
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Prose
- Lead
- Could the lead section be slightly expanded, if it is possible to do so? It is presently only 120 words long.
- A comma is needed after "Triton" to set off the phrase "after a 12-year flight" for clarity and proper punctuation.
- Program description
- The articles Neptune, Jupiter and Voyager 2 have been linked more than once in the same section; it constitutes duplicate linking.
- Funding for the show included a $35,000 (equivalent to $88,800 in 2024) grant from the Public Broadcasting Service,[3] offsetting production costs of $50,000.[15] Could "PBS" be mentioned in this sentence for clarity?
MSincccc (talk) 13:47, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- I've taken care of most of these. I think the lead does a good job of summarizing the article as is, but let me know if there's anything specific I missed and I'll be glad to add it. RoySmith (talk) 15:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Additional comments for prose
- Could the full form of JPL be mentioned at least once in this article?
- Could the article Voyager 1 be linked in this sentence:Voyager 2 was launched on August 20, 1977, with its sister craft, Voyager 1, being launched two weeks later.
- "Los Angeles" could be delinked as per MOS:OL. MSincccc (talk) 17:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Source-to-text spot check
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- Villanova University could be linked in the sentence accompanying reference 16.
- Please ensure that all titles comply with MOS:TITLECONFORM, if it's convenient for you to do so.
- 4,5,7,12, and 13- These references use dates formatted yy/mm/dd. MSincccc (talk) 07:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Done, but please note that WP:GACR only requires compliance with
Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation
. RoySmith (talk) 12:18, 13 April 2025 (UTC)- I realise the fact that MOS:TITLECONFORM is not mandatory as per WP:GACR, hence I said: if it's convenient for you to do so.
- Thank you for your co-operation. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 14:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Done, but please note that WP:GACR only requires compliance with
