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Hello there Ubiquity, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

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Updated DYK query On June 20, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boyle Roche, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

4 years with no edits?

How did that happen? A talk page with a welcome message from maveric149 is very rare these days. You could sell it on eBay for a hefty sum. :) BRIAN0918 • 2006-06-20 02:43

Boyle Roche passed as GA

I have completed my review of Boyle Roche and passed it as a Good Article. Congratulations! This is a fine piece of work, and it's been a pleasure working with you to fix the last 1% or so to bring it to this status. Choess 01:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello Ubiquity,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

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Edits

not cool, and not warranted. And zero explanation given...except for "reverted good faith edits, made worse" without explaining just how it supposedly made it worse. Sorry, the elaborations actually made it much better and clearer. And if it's accurate wording or additions, WP policy does not allow wholesale removal of hard for obvious personal "I don't like" reasons. The Philippians section had absolutely no argument from the nontrinitarian perspective regarding it. It was incomplete, big time. Disrespect good valid edits, get reverted again. Seriously. You had literally zero justification in undoing and disrespectding HARD WORK, simply because you "do not like". Against Wikipedia policy. 71.190.1.190 (talk) 20:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, I saw a typo you had ("it" for "is") and misunderstood, and didn't see the other material. Sorry about that. Glad you were able to recover. ubiquity (talk) 21:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi. Well, ok, I understand. Some IP address editors can do silly things, I know, and I (over the years) have removed vandalism or nonsense from pages many times, but legitimately. But ok, so you admit you were a bit hasty. It happens. If that's the case, it's ok. But in general, some contributors (whether admins or little IP addresses) over the years (not all, but some) impose and bully for obvious "I don't like reasons". And if it applied to you, I would be saying stuff like "if it's accurate wording or additions, WP policy does not allow wholesale removal of hard for obvious personal "I don't like" excuses or reasons. It's a Wiki, so "NO OWN" is how it's supposed to go. Collaboration and respect and no ownership and no bullying and imposing or disrupting others work (if valid and/or sourced etc) is what Wikipedia demands."
But anyway, I had noticed (for example) that the Philippians section had absolutely no argument from the nontrinitarian perspective regarding it. The John 10 section, I put the words "and in the context" etc, and that supposedly made it "worse" how? lol..... That's why I was wondering what you meant exactly. It didn't. And regardless, if it's accurate, it's supposed to simply be left alone. Not removed. By other editors. Some will sometimes disrespect good valid edits, and then get reverted again. Seriously. At times they had literally zero justification in undoing and disrespectding HARD WORK, simply because they "do not like". Against Wikipedia policy. Anyway, if certain things need polishing or correction or fixing, that's different. The recommendation by WP is "fix, not remove" if it applies. Take care 71.190.1.190 (talk) 20:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Drudge Report

---Concerning edits to Drudge Report page, go check the page yourself and see no banner ads or digital advertising. There is no source for this yet because nobody has noticed or mentioned it in a news story. But if you would take the time you spent undoing the edits to actually go check for yourself if the information is correct, you would see that the edits are correct. Thanks!  Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.172.30.226 (talk) 16:10, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Respectfully, I disagree. It takes only a second to revert a change, which I felt was justified since the article is well-sourced and your addition was not sourced at all. And you yourself say I would not have been able to verify it because "nobody has noticed or mentioned it in a news story." That means that your addition of it to Wikipedia is WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH, which is frowned upon. Wait until others have noticed it, and then quote them. Furthermore, you might consider that there are other reasons that you might not have noticed banner or digital ads yourself without the Drudge Report having sworn them off forever. ubiquity (talk) 17:22, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding your edit summary here, per long-standing consensus IMDb should never be used as a source for personal information in BLPs. You can read more about the reasons for this here, here and here. Essentially, it relies on user-generated content and is rife with errors and hoax material. It definitely does not meet the policy requirements of WP:DOB. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:45, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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Issue

I added actual truthful info and you deleted it. Mattohara (talk) 14:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

It's possible that it was truthful, but it definitely did not have a source, and the article you pointed to did not mention it. Please find a source and cite it if you want to include the information. ubiquity (talk) 14:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Are you aware that Wikipedia in itself is not a credible source or most of the sources used to create Wikipedia pages. When writing papers you can’t use Wikipedia. Also many people with Wikipedia pages have gone to show how false they really are Mattohara (talk) 15:03, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Fascinating. ubiquity (talk) 15:37, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Lol Mattohara (talk) 17:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

mules

Did you read my edit summary for what I wrote? What was wrong with it?  Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.105.202 (talk) 14:44, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

I did. It's simply not true, and what you removed was correct. The definition of species is quite complex, even Darwin thought so. Please read the article, it mentions several cases of interbreeding between species. ubiquity (talk) 14:47, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Shurijo

Hi, I thank you for your tireless patrolling, and like to share a food of thought on your actions around Shurijo edits of an anon; well, I'd still even now like to call it incorrect along with you, but it's horribly true, even if he cite nothing (I had tried to go to bed after putting a Japanese source about that on its talk, before that anon edited). I notice the message you put suggesting to cite sources, but wonder you guys review the message wording in future. Cheers, --Aphaia (talk) 21:18, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Wow, the building actually burned down! I cited him because he claimed it burnt down tomorrow (two days in the future when he made the addition), so it seemed like a clear case of vandalism (or planned arson). I'm still trying to figure out how he knew on Oct 30 that it would burn down on Oct 31, but maybe it has something to do with Japan being 13 hours ahead of me AND him being confused about the actual date. As for the message, it's a pre-defined message for "introducing deliberate factual errors." Obviously, reviewers can make mistakes, so the message tells the receiver to cite sources if this were the case. A source might have helped him avoid that error, or at least helped me figure out what he meant. Do you think I owe him an apology? ubiquity (talk) 14:10, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hello, I created a page about Federation of Ileogbo Students Union and you deleted it. I did not in anyway affiliated with the leadership of the association. The Union body is doing tremendously on Radio, Television and other media and I considered it to be added to wikipedia page. The developement the Association is contributing made it to be more recognized  Preceding unsigned comment added by OlusegunA (talkcontribs) 01:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

On 5 February 2016 (3 1/2 YEARS ago), I nominated your page Federation Of Ileogbo Students' Union for speedy deletion, because the article didn't clearly say why the subject was important enough to be included in an encyclopedia. I am not an administrator, and can only nominate articles for deletion; I can't delete them myself, so User:Espresso Addict made the actual decision to delete. I notice that you tried again recently with a slightly different name (Federation Of Ileogbo Students Union), but I didn't even see that one. It was deleted by User:Bbb23, so you should contact him if you think the article should be restored. Good luck! ubiquity (talk) 02:26, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Ubiquity,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 868 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Grandmother

Excuse me i was trying to put up some information about my grandmother and it was removed from the site Dylan Hall Wrexham (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

You'll have to be more specific. What was the title of the article? Was the entire article removed or just your changes? How precisely was I involved?
As someone closely related to the subject, you have a conflict of interest and should not be editing your grandmother's page. But if you provided adequate sources for your additions, I'll look into it further. You must have done it under a different userid, as there are no entries (besides this one) for User:Dylan Hall Wrexham. ubiquity (talk) 21:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

It was under the people section on Wrexham i had put this

  • Pauline Brown (Tony) – (1945-2018) Former lead singer of Tony and the Silver stones ( A Wrexham band who often Played in the cavern Liverpool and was almost signed on by the manager of the beatles in 1963 )

As i was in the process of creating a Wikipedia page on her and her band Dylan .L. Hall (talk) 21:53, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Put up her page first, if you have adequate sources. Then you can add her to lists that require her to have a page. But I'll ask you again to take a look at WP:COI. You have a definite conflict of interest in writing this page. At a minimum, you should declare this on the Talk page, and explain why you think you can be unbiased. ubiquity (talk) 21:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Right ok sorry about that Dylan .L. Hall (talk) 21:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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47.18.30.82 (talk) 22:18, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Occult

My edit about occult is factually correct. Check the etymology, I am not lying. (Unsigned comment from User:47.18.30.82 at approximately 22:21, 11 November 2019 (UTC))

I checked in on Wiktionary, and found that you had added the information there without further source. You may be right, but if so, please provide a source other than circular definitions. ubiquity (talk) 22:23, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

IP

I tried to add certain additions onto the goon Wikipedia page, however, you removed them with no warning, for no known reason. I'm very sad and disappointed  Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:311:2400:50E3:C29:4DE0:FB50 (talk) 21:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

You kept trying to add material that has nothing to do with the word "Goon" (e.g., "* Lucas, has ruined it"), except possibly as an in-joke. I specified the reason as "vandalism." I notice I am not the only editor who reverted you (nor am I the one who gave you the 31 hour block). ubiquity (talk) 21:33, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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