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LTA and SPI cases related to this project

I think we should maintain a list of long-term abuse (LTA) or sockpuppet investigations (SPI) that regularly affect this project. I often forget the links to these pages, and it would help fight vandals. There are four I am aware of. Are there any more? Flibirigit (talk) 11:41, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

From time to time, WP:LTA/PTC and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ProTaylorCraft. Thankfully, they’re a hoaxster so pretty easy to catch. The Kip (contribs) 13:28, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Is there a preferred place within Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Navigation where we could have such a list? Flibirigit (talk) 13:40, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Personally, I would prefer making any such list as low-profile as possible, in the interest of denying recognition. isaacl (talk) 17:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure that such a list is against WP:DENY when the LTA and SPI cases already exist. Is there a specific suggestion to maintain a lower profile list? Flibirigit (talk) 18:37, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Sure, I don't think having a list is against denying recognition. As I mentioned, I just think it should be kept low-profile. Thus I would prefer not having it in the navigation sidebar. isaacl (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
I think it could be pinned to this chat page. Are there other thoughts? Flibirigit (talk) 22:16, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
One possibility I was thinking of is the cleanup department page. A link on this talk page, or the project page itself, would be more easily discoverable by new editors, which has its pros and cons. isaacl (talk) 22:21, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
I've added a pin to this section in the meantime. Further suggestions welcome. Flibirigit (talk) 16:17, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
@Isaacl IMO, DENY works great for garden-variety trolls and vandals, but LTAs and frequent sockpuppeteers like those listed above ultimately become pervasive enough such that they can't simply be ignored/reverted. The Kip (contribs) 05:40, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
I didn't say anything about ignoring such editors. Denying recognition is about minimizing the amount of cognitive effort spent on problem editors; it doesn't mean no time should be spent. isaacl (talk) 07:23, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't agree with this edit, as I think it's relevant to discuss the location of a list within a discussion of whether or not there should be a list. I'm not sure what single-purpose account concern is being raised in the edit summary. If someone wants to boldly go ahead with making a list on this talk page, then I think it's better to make a separate list, rather than pinning this discussion. isaacl (talk) 00:11, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I get SPI and SPA mixed up. I meant SPI. As I said in the edit summary feel free to uncollapse/revert, I was just trying to make the discussion take up a bit less space as it's been inactive for five months. Agree that there's probably a better way to keep this information handy than pinned as this discussion. Wracking talk! 01:46, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
I have reversed the collapsed text. Also, nobody had proposed a better idea than having it pinned here, hence why it is still pinned. Flibirigit (talk) 02:12, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Better is in the eye of the beholder; personally I prefer putting it on the cleanup page. isaacl (talk) 03:19, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
I'm fine with whatever but prefer it not taking up more space than necessary if it's here. If it's moved to cleanup (also fine), we may also want to make an effort at reorganizing Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Navigation to be a bit more reflective of active wikiproject work (... it took me a minute to find Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Clean up). Wracking talk! 03:56, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Diacritics - when and where to use them

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Option 3 has clear consensus, aligns with WP:COMMONNAME and will eliminate the exceptions in WP:NCIH, bringing it into line with standard practice elsewhere on enwiki. I note that proponents of option 1 also believe that it represents COMMONNAME usage for English-language sources; given that option 3 is for diacritics to be allowed rather than mandated, there is no real contradiction anyway. (non-admin closure) Rosbif73 (talk) 07:40, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Good morning all,

This is to open the discussion to all interested editors on when and where to use diacritics in WP:Hockey. The caveat being that according to Wikipedia diacritics are neither encouraged nor discouraged but based on how English sources use them. However, since even the NHL is now using diacritics in their names, WP:NCIH probably needs to be revised. On the talk page of NCIH, in this discussion the majority sought to modify NCIH. Now I wish to bring back the three most chosen options to the main group to make sure everyone is on the same page.

The three options chosen were;

  • A - Option 1 - Leave NCIH as is removing all diacritics from North American hockey pages except for those previously given as exceptions
  • B - Option 2 - Diacritic use is based on how league/event writes name - eg. Selanne and Jagr are without diacritics on NHL pages, but use them on national and other league pages - player bios are with diacritics as their life goes beyond hockey with note about NHL spelling
  • C - Option 3 - All diacritics are allowed

Thank you for your opinions. Llammakey (talk) 14:37, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Option 1: WP:COMMONNAME still refers to the majority of English language sources. Notably, "do what the NHL does" is not found in that policy. Ravenswing 17:23, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 1: per WP:COMMONNAME. GoodDay (talk) 17:26, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 2 Option 3: More and more sources are using diacritics, might as well get with the program at Wikipedia, or else this will be brought up every 5 years or so. (ETA: Changed my vote, as I prefer option 3 to 1)-- Earl Andrew - talk 17:43, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
None of these follow WP:COMMONNAME. Option 2 will only limit diacritic use and make it more of a hassle to find out how each league spells a player's name. The Finnish Elite League spells Jan Bednář without diacritics but spells Balázs Sebők as Balázs Sebok. Every league is very inconsistent and this will only result in edit wars. Option 3 would leave no confusion but also does not follow WP:COMMONNAME. Best option is option 3. – EAKI78 - Contact 18:05, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 1 per GoodDay and Ravenswing. The Kip (contribs) 18:06, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3 – I already said in other discussion that more and more English style guides encourage usage of diacritics. In addition, it is not a problem for Europeans (also French Canadians) to use diacritics, because our languages have them. Furthermore, diacritics are already used in BLPs and non-North American leagues so there is no reason to single out pages of certain North American leagues (NHL, AHL, etc). – sbaio 18:08, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3 which is the WP:COMMONNAME option. That is, WP:COMMONNAME is a policy for article titles and usage of names should match the way their articles are titled. That would mean using Jaromír Jágr and Teemu Selänne (as their articles are titled this way). This also creates consistency across all articles. -- Tavix (talk) 18:17, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Just FYI - Divided usage in English-language sources - where it states Use what would be the least surprising to a user finding the article. Whichever is chosen, one should place a redirect at the other title and mention both forms in the lead. So the names are based on discussion, which is what option B reflects. That being said, COMMONNAME only deals with article titles, not usage within articles, hence the question. Llammakey (talk) 18:23, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3 – we have Anders Sørensen - Danish professional golfer and Anders Sörensen - Swedish professional ice hockey assistant coach, whereas Anders Sorensen redirects to the golfer. So, not using diacritics would require disambiguation pages to be created for similarly named individuals. Assadzadeh (talk) 18:41, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
As I mentioned in the previous discussion, I don't think a league page criterion will go over well with the broader English Wikipedia community. I think the best balance of concerns that can gain broad consensus would be not to impose a restriction on using native spelling for player names in Latin-script alphabets, while allowing for discussion on a per-player basis regarding evidence that the player has adopted a specific anglicization under which they became well-known. Player biographies should include discussion of spellings that were used by their leagues in official communications. isaacl (talk) 18:47, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3: Tavix and Llammakey correctly note that WP:COMMONNAME pertains to article titles, which is not related to the diacritic use we are discussing as far as I can tell. In any case, if you still want to use that baseline, per COMMONNAME: When there is no single, obvious name that is demonstrably the most frequently used for the topic by these sources, editors should reach a consensus as to which title is best by considering these criteria directly. Now that the league is actually recognizing diacritics in their players both online and on-ice, I think the mixture is getting muddled here and headed for widespread use anyway. This discussion should serve as the consensus COMMONNAME is asking us to create. I have never really seen the point of intentionally ignoring how a name is spelled for the sake of technically matching up with a certain point of view on a Wikipedia policy. Sure, it creates consistency with a particular Wikipedia viewpoint, but the compromise we have been running on for years I feel creates inconsistency (as Tavix briefly touched on) that is more apt to confuse readers on what the right way to refer to them is, and only make sense to us as editors. That, I firmly believe, is something that should never happen on Wikipedia. It still does, but we should do everything in our power to avoid it. There's only one way a person's name is legally spelled. Agree with Llammakey and Isaacl. mftp dan oops 19:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3 per Sbaio, Tavix, and Assadzadeh. Option 3 simply creates less confusion and work for everyone. XR228 (talk) 20:36, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3 per above editors, and per my own statements elsewhere. --MikeVitale 00:15, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 3, second choice Option 2; per MFTP Dan etc. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 07:22, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
Option 1 per common name. Masterhatch (talk) 07:29, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Comments

I think that when it comes to how names are spelt, American/Canadian newspapers and websites still don't use diacritics. For relying on sources, it's hard to bank on the sources that use diacritics. I am not going to advocate for one or the other since personally I'd rather not have to anglicize a name when editing, but not something I care to !vote on. Whatever the consensus, I shall enforce. Conyo14 (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Closure of Discussion

Since it has been a month since the last comment, I might recommend we close this discussion as consensus has formed to say "welcome" to all diacritics. Conyo14 (talk) 06:05, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

Was just thinking about this today. I see a consensus, but don't take my word for it because I voted and I've been told my idea of a consensus is too loose. mftp dan oops 16:00, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
Another month gone. What do we consider a consensus? After this much time, I do not foresee much more participation, let alone what good there would be in leaving it open. mftp dan oops 17:33, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
I would agree, but as I am involved, I do not think I can close the discussion. I thought since it was contentious, an admin or experienced closer could. Llammakey (talk) 17:39, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
@Llammakey I'll post it at WP:CR. The Kip (contribs) 17:46, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
@Conyo14, MFTP Dan, and Llammakey: Consider posting a request at WP:CR#Other types of closing requests to get this discussion in front of a wider audience of potential closers. Left guide (talk) 17:46, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
@Left guide Done just now, actually. The Kip (contribs) 17:52, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Addendum: Based on the result of this discussion, I've boldly removed the second bullet point from WP:NCIH. If I've not understood something, please let me know, as I'm like 98% sure this was correct. mftp dan oops 14:21, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

As closer, my expectation was all the bullet points about diacritics could be removed in that diacritics will now follow standard wiki-wide practice. Rosbif73 (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Now I'm understanding. mftp dan oops 15:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
As a point of clarification - the implication of the close + discussion seems to be that diacritics are allowed but not mandated for North American hockey pages (ex. one can link Jonas Rondbjerg or Jonas Røndbjerg, depending on context, preference, usage in sources, etc). Per the language formerly at WP:NCIH, they've been mandated in non-North American hockey pages for some time (ex. one should link Jonas Røndbjerg at all times). Should the bullet points be re-added with amended wording (see NCIH page history - was added but reverted) to reflect this? Courtesy ping @Llammakey, @MFTP Dan, @Rosbif73. The Kip (contribs) 16:51, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Thank you The Kip. Based on the discussion, option 3 was the consensus and that placed no limitations on diacritic use. I offered the options to leave NCIH alone or reflect how the NHL displayed them and that was rejected. NCIH should reflect the consensus. Llammakey (talk) 17:01, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
@Llammakey Not disputing that, just asking if we should have it in text to clarify between optional diacritic usage (w/ North American pages, per this discussion and its close) and mandatory diacritic usage (non-North American pages). The Kip (contribs) 17:48, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Not mandated means that an editor does not have to use them, but they cannot be blocked from being used. So if another editor comes in and installs the diacritics, they cannot be reverted, because there is no basis for reversion. The point of this was to prevent edit wars over diacritic use. So if someone wants to add diacritics to the 1935 NHL season or Teemu Selanne or USHL seasons, they can. One does not mandate its usage, but one does not prevent them from being included either. Setting wording about optional usage would allow the kind of edit wars we are seeking to avoid. Llammakey (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Ontario Hockey League conflict of interest edits

Jorhenry (talk · contribs) created an account today, and began editing articles related to the Ontario Hockey League. His username is similar the league's Director of Broadcast Partnerships & Video Content, as per their web site. I have reverted edits which are promotional in tone. It appears that he is in the process of uploading logos to the Commons for many teams, which may violate copyright. Any thoughts? Flibirigit (talk) 22:34, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, I would like to disclose a conflict of interest and ask for guidance.
I work for the Ontario Hockey League in a broadcast and digital role. Because of that connection, I now understand that I should not directly edit articles related to the league or its teams.
However, I have noticed a few areas where the information or logos on several OHL related pages appear to be outdated, including:
• the primary OHL league logo
• team logos for Barrie, Ottawa, Kingston, and Sudbury
• the streaming section of the OHL article which currently only references a 2005 service
• the Priority Selection section which does not mention the announced return of an in person draft format in 2026
My goal is simply to help ensure that the information and branding used on these pages is accurate and up to date. I understand that Wikipedia content decisions must be made by independent editors, and I will follow the COI guidelines by suggesting changes on talk pages rather than editing directly.
If members of WikiProject Hockey are willing to review the talk page requests and determine whether updates are appropriate, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time and for maintaining the hockey related articles on Wikipedia. Jorhenry (talk) 23:11, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
There are fortunately ways to upload logos for official usage in the Commons. Using those logos on other pages is strictly forbidden, but there are workarounds. As for text itself, thank you for suggesting your comments. I don't typically work on OHL articles, but there plenty of people who do and I'm sure they'll look into your requests. Conyo14 (talk) 00:52, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
I have PNG files of all OHL Logos - any assistance you can provide in best practices for uploading? Is SVG preferred?
Given Wikipedia's strong SEO presence I find the incorrect logos come up in google searches leading to old logos getting prominent use in media coverage of the league, hence the motivation to get uploaded logos in. Jorhenry (talk) 14:55, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
Please remember that Wikipedia editors are volunteers. We are glad to help, but have busy lives and time constraints. Fixes will not be immediate. Flibirigit (talk) 18:31, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
SVG files are preferred for logos. Please note, that if images are uploaded to the Commons, then you are releasing the copyright to the logo so anyone can use it for any purpose. Is that really what the Canadian Hockey League/Ontario Hockey League wants to do with their team's logos? If not, then images can be uploaded locally intead with a WP:FAIRUSE license. Flibirigit (talk) 21:13, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate the clarification on this.
That’s helpful to know regarding SVG uploads to Commons and the implications around releasing copyright. In that case, I don’t believe the league would want to release the primary logo for unrestricted use.
Would the best approach be to upload the current OHL logo locally under fair use instead? If so, I’m happy to provide the most up to date SVG or PNG file and any relevant source information needed for proper licensing and attribution.
My main goal here is simply to ensure the correct current logo is reflected on the article, as the version currently displayed appears to be outdated.
If there is a preferred process for supplying the correct file to an editor who can handle the upload and placement, I’m glad to follow that.
Thanks again for the guidance, I appreciate the help. Jorhenry (talk) 17:15, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@Jorhenry Hello, and sorry for the late response. The best approach would be to upload the current OHL logo (and others that you are willing to update) under fair use principles. The best way to do this would be to follow the instructions at the file upload wizard. Make sure to upload under the non-free file portion. Cheers, kline / talk / contribs 18:40, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
I am working on the images in question: File:Barrie.png, File:Kingston Frontenacs.png, File:OHL Logo.png, File:Ottawa 67s.png, File:Sudbury.png. Will advise when complete. Flibirigit (talk) 21:20, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
The logos uploaded to the Commons for the Kingston Frontenacs, Ottawa 67's, and the Ontario Hockey League, are all tagged with "consists only of simple geometric shapes or text", not meeting the threshold of originality for copyright. Those three logos can be used without a fair use replacement. I will uploaded newer versions of the Barrie Colts and Sudbury Wolves logos. Flibirigit (talk) 21:28, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

100-assists seasons

Permission to create a page about 100 assist seasons in the NHL? Similar to the 100 point seasons page HallowedAce (talk) 23:27, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources which prove that the subject meets notability for inclusion. Flibirigit (talk) 23:34, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
HallowedAce (talk) 23:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Yardbarker and StatMuse are unreliable (see discussion links at WP:NBARSU), Daily Faceoff I haven't heard of, and the other two (Athletic, ESPN) seem generally reliable. Left guide (talk) 23:56, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Daily Faceoff is reliable in my opinion Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 00:15, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Daily Faceoff is generally reliable in my experience, they were who Frank Seravalli wrote for for a long time. The Kip (contribs) 00:30, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Looking a bit deeper, I would also say Daily Faceoff is generally reliable. They maintain strict independence with their writing crew and nothing seems user-generated nor AI generated. Though they do seem to promote gambling. Conyo14 (talk) 01:38, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Does this mean I can create the page? HallowedAce (talk) 20:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
No. Only two of the provided sources are reliable, and both of those talk about 100 assists as a passing mention. Please read WP:RS and see the comment below which recommends using a WP:SANDBOX to develop. Flibirigit (talk) 22:07, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
👍 HallowedAce (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Ideally, we'd want to see evidence that the topic meets WP:NLIST's discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. For the time being, you may want to work on it in draftspace or userspace, where good-faith sandboxing is relatively immune from deletion. Left guide (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Zeev Buium milestone at 2024–25 NHL season

Decided to bring this here in an attempt to avoid an edit war.

In short: @Kivi36 added the following as a milestone to the above season page yesterday:

* On April 20, 2025, Minnesota Wild Defenceman Zeev Buium became the first Israeli citizen and player born to two Israeli parents to play in an NHL game, with citations from Sporting News and The Forward.

I removed it with the following edit summary:

rvt - good faith addition, but while technically a citizen, Buium is US-born and has represented US national teams - I wouldn't call him the first Israeli player

Compare this to the Bruno Idžan milestone at 2025–26 NHL season, where Idžan is noted as the first Croat selected in the draft - he's Croatian-born and has represented Croatian national teams. Even if inclusion of his technical nationality ends up the consensus option, I still think the parents bit is not notable enough whatsoever.

Kivi then re-adds it without explanation/an edit summary. I subsequently revert them and tell them to take it to the talk page for discussion, which I'm doing here instead as season talk pages don't get much traffic.

At the top of milestone sections, there's a hidden note I wrote a few seasons ago as an attempt to standardize what we put there. It's not official policy per se, but reflects what's traditionally been included. Most of it is in the following hatnote, but...

More information Milestones guidelines ...
Close

...at the very bottom, the relevant part here is Any milestones not listed (1,200th point, etc) may be added at your discretion, but they may not be retained.

My questions are twofold:

1. Should the Buium bit be retained in the article, and

2. On a grander scale, should we workshop and/or formalize the above milestones guidelines, similar to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/NHL season pages format#Debuts and Last Games? The Kip (contribs) 16:12, 24 March 2026 (UTC)


Kivi36's response:

My apology if it seemed as though I was attempting to entice an edit war. I did include my reasoning from undoing your reviosion in a seperate revision as the undo option did allow me to include a reasoning. I am curious to see what others believe about this case. Thank you @The Kip: working with me for the greater good of the community :) Kivi36 (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC)Kivi36

I agree with The Kip. If he was the first Israeli-born player, it would be different. Being born to two Israeli parents doesn't make it notable, it is trivial at best. Conyo14 (talk) 20:41, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
First israeli citizen though Kivi36 (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
I still find it extremely trivial. If he were playing for the national Israel team while in the NHL, it would be different. Conyo14 (talk) 01:12, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
@Conyo14 appreciate the feedback. Curious about your thoughts on my second point, though. The Kip (contribs) 05:12, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
I don't think formalizing it matters. The hidden messages are fine as a guideline. Conyo14 (talk) 16:28, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Awards and the like

At what point does an editor recieve an award, notability or special perks ( or like credibility?). I'm not sure if I'm expressing my question well enough but whatever Kivi36 (talk) 13:39, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

There are several types of editor awards shown at WP:AWARDS. Some, like the service awards, have specific thresholds. Others, like barnstars, don't have set rules; it's just a thoughtful way to recognize and appreciate a significant body of work someone else has put into a certain task, project, or endeavor. In ice hockey there's {{The Hockey Barnstar}} along with a few team-specific ones at Category:Sports barnstar templates. Left guide (talk) 16:04, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
How does one acquire a barnstar Kivi36 (talk) 19:06, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
You can read Wikipedia:Barnstars, which was linked above. Quote any specific text that you do not understand. —Bagumba (talk) 20:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
There are certainly no special perks or "notability" in the way you probably mean. A dwindling number of us have been around for twenty years or more, but any "credibility" we have comes from whether people think we know what we're talking about or not. Much the same as with any other editor. Ravenswing 18:50, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Images of Hall of Famers

Over the past few days, it has now come to pass that with a bit of fact-finding and editing (with the last one being Earl Seibert), nearly every player inductee of the Hockey Hall of Fame has a profile image. All except four players have a profile picture: Cammi Granato, Geraldine Heaney, Riikka Sallinen, Krissy Wendell-Pohl (Builders and Referee are a different story, but still). Wikidude10000 (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

FWIW, there's a Commons image showing Riikka Sallinen's jersey in an exhibit that might make a nice addition to her article, though likely not in the lead/infobox. Left guide (talk) 00:03, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Presidents' Trophy

I know here at ice hockey we usually wait till end of season to update things. Over at Presidents' Trophy, there has been many attempts to update even though the season is not done. Usually it is anon edits. Most recently, though, it was User:Dextiboi. Thoughts anyone? Masterhatch (talk) 00:35, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

You've left a courteous message on their talk page already, so if they do it again, start using the warnings at WP:VAN. Regards, PKT(alk) 01:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Kevin Hayes

Kevin Hayes has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:53, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Major professional sports leagues

There is a discussion at Talk:Major professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada#WNBA & PWHL that members of this group may be interested in. Assadzadeh (talk) 07:43, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

There is now a requested move regarding adding "men's" to the title of Major professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada. The purpose being to avoid confusion with Prominent women's sports leagues in the United States and Canada and to clearly define the leagues that should be included in the article. Assadzadeh (talk) 13:57, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

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