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Your comment on my Talk page

I've responded there, but you can respond either here or there as you see fit. Long story short, what you were doing runs contrary to the way that AfDs are handled, so my undoing of your edits was entirely justified. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC) it is not even a vote just a discussion area-00:28,~ User:Fenetrejones 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Entirely true, and I've never said otherwise. That said, it has rules just as the rest of Wikipedia does, and your behaviour was contrary to those. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:25, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Joel Mutchimunyi Mulumba

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Creating hoaxes

September 2018

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• Concerning your edits at Political status of Crimea, if Serbia voted against resolution condemning violations human right in Crimea it does not mean it supports the annexation. You have been reverted already three times, I will revert this again now, and if you continue without discussing at the talk page, I will seek measures which would restrict your participation in the project. Thank you for understanding.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:48, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
• The UN Resolution is not just about human rights. It is also "Condemning the ongoing temporary occupation of part of the territory of Ukraine — the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol (hereinafter “Crimea”) — by the Russian Federation, and reaffirming the non-recognition of its annexation". It also says "Recalling its resolution 68/262 of 27 March 2014 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine, in which it affirmed its commitment to the sovereignty," These two parts where the first parts of the resolution. which I found right here^[1](There is a link on the page that will take you to the document.)Fenetrejones (talk) 10:23, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

  Still, this is original research. Please discuss at the talk page.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:32, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

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Internal conflict in Myanmar (Israel role)

Hello, im Dottasriel2000 and how do you know that Israeli govt openly condemned Burmese actions ? where news and the article about it ? send me link plz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dottasriel2000 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay seem like im wrong. Sorry and thanks again for your editing :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dottasriel2000 (talk • contribs) 13:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

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My apologies to you. I was not aware you were as new of an editor as you are. A Talk page stalker is a user to watches another user's talk page to see what they are up to. When I wrote (talk page stalker) using the {{talk page stalker}} template, I was not calling you a talk page stalker, but I was in fact referring to myself. It is generally custom for talk page stalkers to use that template to explain their presence on another user's talk page in a light-hearted manner. You have my deepest apologies for the confusion.

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No ProblemFenetrejones (talk) 23:54, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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Political status of Crimea

You added some references tags <ref name="un.org"/> (for example to Jordan) in September of last year. Unfortunately there is no reference with this name. Can you have a look and see if you can resolve this?

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC).

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Please note that there is a requirement that any category added to an article must have evidence supporting that category in the article. It is not sufficient to cite outside sources, you must have confirmation in the article. You've been adding cats without support. Please stop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The first two guys were already listed as fascists and Christians in their categories, so Christian fascists made sense to me. It says that Himmler was a former catholic so he was a former german Christian. I already had evidence from categories already there.Fenetrejones (talk) 22:48, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Only Rosenberg and Jodl were not already supported by the article so I fixed that.Fenetrejones (talk) 22:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

There were already categories stating that Franz von Papen ‎and Arthur Seyuss were fascist and Christian, so the category Christian fascists made sense. For Himmler, it already says that he was a former catholic, so former Christian makes sense too as he embraced paganism to some extent.Fenetrejones (talk) 22:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about the rest though.Fenetrejones (talk) 23:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

OK, no problem. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:42, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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At Hans Fritzsche, you added two categories saying he was Protestant. No sources describe him as Protestant, not even the one you cited. This campaign of yours is getting out of hand. Binksternet (talk) 17:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Read that source it is a 20 page document about the whole incident. Henry Gerecke and the nazi prisoners. It is confirmed that received the Eucharist. It is not a campaign. This document is also reliable. Lutheranism is also a branch of protestantism. Fenetrejones (talk) 17:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I just re-read the document. It is confirmed that he took communion and the eucharist in Lutheran faith. It is confirmed on page 16 of the 26 document. "Fritzche along with Speer and Von Schirach asked Gerecke for communion after they had studied the bible with him for several weeks." This source is from a book called: Mission to Nuremberg and that book has been promoted as accurate and credible by sources like Washington post and New york times.Fenetrejones (talk) 17:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Fine, he received the Eucharist and asked for communion. I'm not disputing that. But being "Protestant" ISN'T HOW HE IS DESCRIBED IN SOURCES. Nobody says "Hans Fritzsche was a Protestant who was tried for Nazi crimes." Binksternet (talk) 17:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

"Okay than it should be replaced with Christian rather protestant.Fenetrejones (talk) 18:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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"Nationalists" and "Populism"

Hello @Fenetrejones: I see that you have been inserting language into several articles and assigning categories labeling subjects as "nationalists." Your edits have been reverted by many other WP users, and yet you are continuing on this crusade. Being a member of the Freedom Caucus does not mean they are a nationalist--nothing in that page says anything about nationalism. Please stop flagrantly assigning these categories to BLP articles without discussing the content in the talk page, please. PerpetuityGrat (talk) 15:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

@User:PerpetuityGrat Okay, I am currently in the midst of writing a response on your talk page.Fenetrejones (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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Is there a reason why your references are citing content that contains no mention of "nationalist?" The articles you are referencing to support your claim that an individual is a nationalist isn't stated at all. For example, this edit includes a reference, but that referenced news article does not mention what you are alleging in your edit. This is just one example. Can you explain yourself please? PerpetuityGrat (talk) 16:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Both of you need to stop edit warring. Bacondrum 22:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

@Bacondrum, I don't know why he is complaining about the populism category when he said fair enough. That category has been used for people long before I even became an editors, examples would be for the articles of Bernie and Trump. Now for the nationalist category, America First (policy) is a type of nationalism, just like Nazism, Juche, Ba'athism and some others. America First (policy) is literally based on the principles of nationalism and the article doesn't hide it. Every self identified Ba'athist is an Arab Nationalist for example, because that is what Ba'athism is. Likewise, every self identified America First Policy Republican is an American Nationalist because that is what America First Policy is. Fenetrejones (talk) 22:16, 18 April 2021 (UTC) And with the Matt Gaetz one, that article was actually already there before I added. I did not realize it at the time of the edit but if you scroll down on the page it is there.Fenetrejones (talk) 22:19, 18 April 2021 (UTC) Nationalism can be a broad term and there are many variants of it. Fenetrejones (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC) And with pertaining to types of Republicans. There are a handful of types. There are Libertarian types of republicans like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie. Rand Paul is included in the category Category:American libertarians, because he embraces libertarian ideology. There are those considered Neo-conservatives, which is particularly used on describing Bush administration members and people like John McCain. Fenetrejones (talk) 22:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Copy/paste content

I would like to request that you attempt to personalize the sections you are pasting in several articles, a la this edit. Duplicating sentences, word-for-word, is incredibly unencyclopedic. You are not a novice editor and you must know this. How is the content you added encyclopedic? --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 18:15, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

It was a major vote that made the news. @User:PerpetuityGratFenetrejones (talk) 15:59, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

That is both lazy and sloppy editing, and not encyclopedic at all. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 06:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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"which protects so-called Dreamers—immigrants who illegally moved to the U.S. when they were children" is a biased presentation of DACA. Children are brought to another country by adults, they don't "move" themselves. And "so-called" looks like a workaround of MOS:SCAREQUOTES. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:57, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Addition of voting records to politicians articles.

Fenetrejones, I noticed that you did a mass add of content to articles about politicians. I'm concerned that these additions don't cite sources that establish weight for the additions. As an example, , I would agree that the sources you added are reliable for fact but they don't establish any WP:WEIGHT for inclusion. Effectively, we need a RS that establishes that it's significant to the topic of the politician that they voted some way for some specific bill. If no sources are saying why it's significant that Senator X voted for bill Y then we should leave it out of their BLP article. Most of the time how a politician voted on a particular bill is not due. I wanted to get your thoughts on my concern rather than just doing a mass revert of your 18 Jan edits. I understand it would be shocking to see a notice that says so many edits were reverted! Thanks, Springee (talk) 13:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, there is a source here for example.^[1] as plenty of republicans have changed their stances. Fenetrejones (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Is RollCall really a source that establishes weight for these additions? Looking a most of your recent edits it seems like there are a few bills of interest and then you have noted on various BLPs where a person voted against those bills. I don't think this would pass NPOV since you haven't shown it was notable that they voted for/against the bill. Do you have stronger sources that really focus on why such votes might pass the 10YEAR test? Springee (talk) 14:34, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Fenetrejones, please hold off on more of these additions since WEIGHT is a concern. I think this should go to NPOVN to figure out how many of these edits should be kept. I don't think you have made a case that these specific bills have DUE weight on all these different BLPs. Springee (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I've opened a NPOVN discussion here . Springee (talk) 14:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Secure America’s Borders First Act

All these edits you're doing are RECENT and UNDUE with primary sources. Cheers. soibangla (talk) 18:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

2015 vote on Obama executive order

Hi. While looking at the page for David McKinley I noticed you added a statement about his LGBT rights policy, stating that In 2015, McKinley was one of 60 Republicans voting to uphold President Barack Obama’s 2014 executive order banning federal contractors from making hiring decisions that discriminate based on sexual orientation or gender identity. - as well as adding this to the pages of numerous other Republicans (Don Young, Mario Diaz-Balart, Elise Stefanik, Rodney Davis and Adam Kinzinger for the ones I found), but the reference for all of these was just copied text stating what was at the end of the statement - "upholding President Barack Obama’s 2014 executive order banning federal contractors from making hiring decisions that discriminate based on sexual orientation or gender identity", with no link or any indication of where you got this information. Did you have a source for this that you accidentally left out? If so, please send a link, it would make it much easier as I've had to replace the references with "citation needed" tags at risk of potentially deleting the statements. Thanks in advance. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 00:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

here it is. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/h326

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Categories

Please don't add categories which are unsupported by reliable sources, particularly in BLPs. While I agree with you that two of the people who's articles i've undone your edits to are probably far right and nationalists, it isn't supported in the content and not by established reliable sources (at least not enough to make such statements in wiki voice.) PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I undid your edit, but removed the categories in the process. So the reason you undid it for, is still undone. I just kept the other content. Fenetrejones (talk) 18:33, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

no objection to that. I agree that she is far-right and I'm searching for sources but unfortunately most seem hesitant to outright label her as far-right but they often say "aligned with the far-right". PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:44, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

here:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/13/politics/mary-miller-republican-primary-illinois/index.html Fenetrejones (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

also here:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-backed-gop-rep-beats-024124896.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://wgntv.com/news/politics/mary-miller-projected-gop-winner-in-illinois-15th-congressional-district/ Fenetrejones (talk) 20:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Aside from Yahoo, none of them call her explicitly far-right herself, one applies it to 3 different people and doesn't go into it further, the other says far-right ally which is close to calling her far-right and the last says she's part of a far-right caucus. While I know as a voter that her identification with the far-right ultimately makes her far-right, it does not make her far-right in wiki-voice. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

found some. It talks about IL15 as an example of a far right victory.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-election-2022-gop-lauren-boebert-mary-miller-rino-20220629-j6twyrfg6zblrgptu6kkq7vw4u-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/us/politics/mary-miller-rodney-davis-il.html Fenetrejones (talk) 20:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

the sources need to explicitly say "x is far-right" vs. merely associated with. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:40, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I only just noticed this discussion. Fenetrejones, do not ignore this discussion. Praxidicae has some good advice for you. You have tried several times *after* this discussion to label Mary Miller far right in the opening sentence of her biography, with insufficient sourcing: , , . You need to stop and discuss this on the talk page or you will just end up blocked again. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

User:Praxidicae, User:Tartan357, I'm getting a bit tired of this user just ramming every little NEWSy factoid in here, referenced with primary sources or with local websites. I think they've done this on other articles as well, and it's not helpful. Drmies (talk) 01:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

okay I will stop then. none of it is even tabloid shit or really even bias. Fenetrejones (talk) 01:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

like Myanmar, that is from cnn.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/19/politics/house-republicans-myanmar-coup/index.html Fenetrejones (talk) 01:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

apologies to @Praxidicae and @Tartan357 Fenetrejones (talk) 01:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

You don't need to apologize to me. I have not been following the other concerns about your editing. We had a good conversation about the far-right issue on the article talk page. As general advice, if someone disagrees with you, open a discussion on the article talk page and if you respect that discussion you will have very few problems. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 04:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm saying this with the best intentions here because I don't see this ending well for you - you are quickly headed to a block or topic ban from the Mary Miller article, at minimum and I strongly suggest you listen to @Tartan357 @Drmies and others and as a sign of good faith, revert your most recent edit. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:15, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

okay I will Fenetrejones (talk) 17:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry, I just used a New York Times article, but I understand so I undid it. Fenetrejones (talk) 17:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

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I plan to fix it, hence the lack of categories, this is only the start version. sorry for the inconvenience. Fenetrejones (talk) 21:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Listing how politicians voted on a particular bill

Fenetrejones, I figured I owned you a talk page explanation since you are about to see a bunch of reverted edits :o ! As a general rule unless there is a notable association between a politician and a bill they voted on we don't list that they voted for/against any particular bill even if there is a RS article that says something like "These are the people who voted for/against X". Certainly if a politician worked to push/oppose a bill and their efforts were noted by RSs then we may include it. But when someone just voted for/against a bill we don't list it in their bio even if the bill itself is significant. I hope that explains why I just reverted a number of your edits and I'm sorry if the number of reverts was a bit of a shock. Springee (talk) 18:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Springee I reverted it for 2 of the articles where it was referenced and relevant in context. Andrevan@ 19:59, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Andrevan, thanks for the note. I've noted my opposition on those talk pages but I will let others decide if my arguments are persuasive enough to remove the content a second time. Springee (talk) 20:47, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

I re-added one, but only because it fit the area with Mary miller's vote on ukraine policy, but on the others, I agree. Fenetrejones (talk) 02:39, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Based on the NPOVN discussion I think that violates OR to include it (see Masem's comment in this NPOVN discussion). Basically you would need a RS to say why this any BLP subject's vote it has weight in the article. That said, I oppose it but I don't see it as a major issue. Springee (talk) 04:16, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Looking at Miller's page a bit more the Ukraine vote is hardly the worst thing on it. Lot's of similar "one of # of votes against X" entries and several examples of entries failing to use impartial language. Springee (talk) 04:24, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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Reverted edits

I reverted your edits to Mark Kelly as they did not appear to be NPOV. Andre🚐 23:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

thanks, it was hard to word, but it was just notable headline Fenetrejones (talk) 02:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Matt Cartwright

Your edit here is a WP:COPYVIO - the text "an apparent misunderstanding over video shot for the Pennsylvania Democrat's bill about water contamination at Camp Lejeune," "Members of Congress are prohibited from using official resources to promote commercial endeavors.," is a direct copy-paste from the Axios link. Andre🚐 02:17, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

sorry, I was trying to revise it still then. didn't fix it just yet Fenetrejones (talk) 02:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

sorry about that. genuine accident Fenetrejones (talk) 02:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Fenetrejones, could you please read or re-read WP:COPYVIO and start reviewing your recent edits for additional copy-paste issues? If you're willing to do so, I'd appreciate it if you'd ping me after you've resolved/cleared your last 100 edits or so, as I'd like to double check your work. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

@User:Firefangledfeathers, I read it and yes I see what I did wrong, I checked my last 100 edits, most were very minor. This is the only one that was actually bad. Sorry about it. Fenetrejones (talk) 02:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

I would love for you to take some more time on a second pass through. Some tips:

• It's fine to briefly quote the text of laws, but it needs to be clear that the text is quoted.
• Pasting seven words from the title of a source is too much, and inserting the word "also" doesn't change that.

It would please me, greatly, to be able to say something tomorrow at ANI like "Fenetrejones definitely violated copyright in a few places, but they've demonstrated that they now understand the policy and have worked to fix past mistakes." Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:01, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

how do I do that. and yes, thank you. Fenetrejones (talk) 03:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

"how do do that": if you mean "how do I make it clear that text is quoted" then you just need to surround the quoted text in quotation marks and make sure it's followed by a footnote citation to the quoted source. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

oh that I understand. I am just saying "I definitely violated copyright in a few places, but I've demonstrated that they now understand the policy and have worked to fix past mistakes as shown in recent edits." Fenetrejones (talk) 03:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Gotcha! For that, I need to see that you've marked quoted material properly and reworded pasted content. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

thank you, I have been working on that Fenetrejones (talk) 03:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

mainly because I checked all my old edits, and 99% of them were very small. but newer edits, I made sure of getting right. Fenetrejones (talk) 15:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

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sorry I did not mean to, I was trying to undo people's edits Fenetrejones (talk) 02:47, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I realise that it might be difficult to recognise what's correct and what's wrong in that article history due to the constant back and forth. My apologies to you if I misunderstood your intentions. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 11:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

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Thank You Fenetrejones (talk) 01:04, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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it's already on the wikipedia page that says that she is lutheran. Fenetrejones (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

You added it after my revert of your edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:36, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

and I added a source backing it up Fenetrejones (talk) 13:19, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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I apologize. I saw a category already on that page when I made the edit. I didn't mean any vandalism. Fenetrejones (talk) 18:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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Okay Fenetrejones (talk) 17:11, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Ralph Abraham (politician)

With this edit at Ralph Abraham (politician) you added the category "Protestants from Louisiana". Where is this supported in the article? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

there was a category that said "Baptists from Louisiana" already there Fenetrejones (talk) 18:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Is the category supported by a source anywhere in the article? Magnolia677 (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I just went off by the material that was already there and that category was already there. Sorry I did not notice that it was absent in the article. I will take your warning seriously, and be more attentive going forward. Fenetrejones (talk) 18:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

If the person is a Baptist, why are you adding that they are a Protestant? Magnolia677 (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

cause Baptist is a protestant branch, and that category includes notable people Fenetrejones (talk) 18:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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yes I am on it. I am organizing the whole thing right now. Fenetrejones (talk) 18:55, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

sorry for the inconvenience Fenetrejones (talk) 19:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Rodney Frelinghuysen

With this edit you added the category "Episcopalians from New Jersey", to the BLP Rodney Frelinghuysen. What text in the article supports this? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

the category "American Episcopilians" is already there Fenetrejones (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

and now I added it for good. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodney_Frelinghuysen&oldid=1144069227 Fenetrejones (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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Is this a block? Fenetrejones (talk) 23:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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New categories

When you add a new more precise category as you did here, please remove the broader category. Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 17:39, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

perfect. will do Fenetrejones (talk) 17:39, 21 March 2023 (UTC)