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This is a test for the new signature. --Slate Weasel (talk|contribs) 21:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
With nowiki tags on the pipe. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Erettopterus size chart

Hi, Slate Weasel. During the review of Erettopterus, we have come to the conclusion that E. grandis should be included. If you are so kind to modify it, I remind you that it measured 250 cm. Super Ψ Dro 12:18, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

First of all, thanks for adding it! It happens that a recent journal of 2015 shows this size as valid, and we suppose it is true, and therefore, we decided that the species should be included in the size chart. Super Ψ Dro 16:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Graphic Designer's Barnstar

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For your excellent, vigorous and tireless work in creating size diagrams for extinct animals, in particular the eurypterids. Ichthyovenator (talk) 14:35, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I am working on creating a size comparison for one genus in every eurypterid family, so I still have plenty of work left to do! I look forwards to more eurypterid GAs! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 15:07, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Graphic Designer's Barnstar 2: The Sequel

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I see somebody already left you one of these but you deserve another one for a fantastic job on palaeontological scale diagrams! Also, nice work on those for Deinocheirus and giant Ornithopods, they're two of your best ones yet. ▼PσlєοGєєкƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 20:30, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Wow! I'm glad you like the giant ornithopods, especially since I'm not fully sure if they've passed yet. Great work on spinosaurids (and scale diagrams, too), it's nice to see Suchomimus get some love, as it's one of the most complete. It'll be nice to get a good topic on dinosaurs, seeing how Tyrannosauridae failed (and, "unfortunately", a bunch of new species got described. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 20:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for your contributions to the eurypterid articles! You deserve more of these. Super Ψ Dro 22:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 22:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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Puertasaurus

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Puertasaurus has been completed.

Please let me now if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the GAN.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedits! I do have one question, however: what does the "use mdy dates" tag mean? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 21:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Twofingered Typist, sorry, I forgot to ping you. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 00:39, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Slate Weasel It's good practice to keep all the date formats in an article consistent. I found several that were not so fixed them to agree with the format of the majority of dates. Adding the month/day/year tag indicates to other editors the dates should all be formatted this way (m/d/y/). Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation! Will remember to date things more consistently in the future! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 12:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Puertasaurus

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Your GA nomination of Puertasaurus

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DYK for Puertasaurus

On 31 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Puertasaurus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Puertasaurus (illustration shown), one of the largest dinosaurs, is known from only four vertebrae? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Puertasaurus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Puertasaurus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Antarctosaurus Size Charts

Hi! Would you take issue if I made some minor modifications to your two Antarctosaurus Size Charts? Basically, because A. wichmannianus is so complicated I want to move the silhouette slightly away from Bonitasaura, to be a little more generic (Bonitasaura seems to be coming out closer to lognkosauria whereas the braincase of A.wichmannianus, at least, might be a nemegtosaur). Seen here: I also want to slim down the legs on A.giganteus. Of the few bones we have are two very slender femurs, which have been noted as such in the literature. The current diagram looks somewhat like Opisthocoelicaudia in terms of robustness, which happens to be a bit of an oddball in that department. I've also updated that diagram to your new standard human figure/grey floor. See here: Steveoc 86 (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Changes look great! Feel free to upload anytime! Antarctosaurus is definitely very weird. My "A." gianteus is very poorly done, and wasn't even based on anything, I'd been wondering what to do with it for quite awhile. Thanks for the edits! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 00:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
By the way, perhaps the box and nonbold black text key could replace the current bold text in the latter diagram? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 01:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I can do that. Do you prefer the grid in front of or behind the dino? To be honest, the update to giganteus isn't 100% based on any specific titanosaur either. With just a couple of limb bones to go off and with most studies being like, 'it's very big titanosaur', I don't feel comfortable basing it on anything too specific. Interestingly, Notocolossus is from the same formation as giganteus, it's possible they are synonymous, but unfortunately, there is no overlapping material. Steveoc 86 (talk) 10:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Probably in front of the dino for consistency. My old giganteus wasn't 100% based on any sauropod, so your new version is still easily an improvement :) . Hmm... Notocolossus is proving to have the potential of being more awesome than any of us ever expected! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 12:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

No the skull does match

https://sta.sh/02cryk88l08q It was from the article --Bubblesorg (talk) 23:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

I've explained my reasoning more thoroughly on the image review page. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Size Charts

Hi! May i ask wich program do you use to make your charts, they appear to be really clean and aesthetic and also what do you think about quality of my charts? I just started to make them and just want to know a few tipsKoprX (talk) 18:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)KoprX

I make my size comparisons using a program called Inkscape. It is completely free (and freely licensed, too), and uses a file format called SVG (Scaleable Vector Graphics). Hypothetically, an SVG will retain its quality no matter how much you scale it, as it doesn't use pixels, which is why they appear to be really clean. For drawing in Inscape, pressing "b" on your keyboard activates a polygon-drawing tool. "F2" activates the path editing tool, which allows you to edit the polygon and smooth out the corners. "F1" is the standard move tool. Hopefully this helps. User:Steveoc 86 and User:PaleoGeekSquared also make size charts with SVG, so they may also be able to answer some questions. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for all advices, this is really great programKoprX (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC)KoprX

Carcharodontosaur Size Charts

Hey Slate Weasel. i am creating a chart of carnosaur silhouettes, if you have any spare time would it be possible for you to create a silhouettes of giganotosaurus, mapusaurus and carcharodontosaurus showing only their largest size and colored green. thanks Dinomike123--Dinomike123 (talk) 11:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I actually already have created & scaled silhouettes for these three taxa. Giganotosaurus is also already in green, and should be ready (I updated it this month). I also have Carcharodontosaurus and Mapusaurus, but they're going to get new heads soon. I can upload the silhouette files separately, too, if this would help. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

hey slate weasel, i saw the silhouettes and they are excellent, i have already downloaded them because i like them so much but they show different specimens, would it be possible for silhouettes that show only the very largest specimens known and colored green for mapusaurus and carcharodontsaurus.thanks mike--Dinomike123 (talk) 10:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Just to let you know I recently remade both Slate Weasel's Giganotosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus to better match their proportions. You to can see them in my size comparison.KoprX (talk) 14:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)KoprX

Hi i just ended work on theropod size charts and since i was working on your's carcharodontosauridae silhouettes do you think i should also update File:Carcharodontosaurid scale.svg? I know you was working on this so I don't want to interfere, but i have done minor improvements to three biggest taxa.KoprX (talk) 10:13, 4 June 2019 (UTC)KoprX

Argentinosaurus

Hey Slate Weasel, just wondering about your further plans for Argentinosaurus. Do you need any help with it? If you wish, we could work on it together to get it to GA level soon. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I had kind of forgotten about it, to be completely honest. It definitely would be nice to come back to it though, as it's one of the most popular dinosaur articles that we have, although I'm rather busy right now, so I won't be able to do much until mid-June, but I'd be pleased to do it then. I will have to update my skeletal sometime (insufficient cartilage, apparently), too. By the way, how close are we to getting Confuciusornis (I finally can spell it correctly!) to GA? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 00:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good! Let me know if you need any help then. I have some additional books containing useful summaries, if you are interested. Regarding Confuciusornis, I think it is approximately on 70 %. There are still many small things and papers that need to be incorporated. In the next couple of days I plan to do a more extensive search to find out what is missing, and post a new to-do that would primarily contain many minor jobs that are relatively quick to do (but that still need to be done, and which become a huge task if a single person has to do all of those alone). It would be highly appreciated if you want to take over the one or the other (it certainly has time until mid-June!). --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

what do you think?

Suskityrannus paleoart

so what do you think?--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Well, it definitely is better than the previous one, but there are still some issues: the eye is too big to fit inside of the sclerotic ring, the tip of the lower jaw is still too square, tyrannosauroid-grade filaments probably couldn't have been green. You should definitely get this checked at WP:DINOART before adding it to the article. Also, the image could use a bit more shading. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 21:12, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

May 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter


May 2019Issue 002


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

Cretoxyrhina by Macrophyseter
Bramble Cay melomys by The lorax/Vanamonde93, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Chimpanzee by LittleJerry/Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Tim riley
Spinophorosaurus by FunkMonk/Jens Lallensack, reviewed by Enwebb
Trachodon mummy by Jens Lallensack, reviewed by Gog the Mild
Megabat by Enwebb, reviewed by Jens Lallensack

Newly nominated FAs

Spinophorosaurus by FunkMonk/Jens Lallensack
Trachodon mummy by Jens Lallensack




Fundamental changes being discussed at WikiProject Biology

On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.

Editor Spotlight: These editors want you to write about dinosaurs

Editors FunkMonk and Jens Lallensack had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to GA and then nominating them both for FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.

1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles?

  • Jens Lallensack: I started in the German Wikipedia in 2005 but switched to the English Wikipedia because of its very active dinosaur project. My first major collaboration with FunkMonk was on Heterodontosaurus in 2015.
  • FunkMonk: Yeah, we had interacted already on talk pages and through reviewing each other's articles, and at some point I was thinking of expanding Heterodontosaurus, and realised Jens had already written the German Wikipedia version, so it seemed natural to work together on the English one. Our latest collaboration was Spinophorosaurus, where by another coincidence, I had wanted to work on that article for the WP:Four Award, and it turned out that Jens had a German book about the expedition that found the dinosaur, which I wouldn't have been able to utilise with my meagre German skills. Between those, we also worked on Brachiosaurus, a wider Dinosaur Project collaboration between several editors.

2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs?

  • JL: Because of the huge public interest in them. But dinosaurs are also highly interesting from a scientific point of view: key evolutionary innovations emerged within this group, such as warm-bloodedness, gigantism, and flight. Dinosaur research is, together with the study of fossil human remains, the most active field in paleontology. New scientific techniques and approaches tend to get developed within this field. Dinosaur research became increasingly interdisciplinary, and now does not only rely on various fields of biology and geology, but also on chemistry and physics, among others. Dinosaurs are therefore ideal to convey scientific methodology to the general public.
  • FM: As outlined above, dinosaurs have been described as a "gateway to science"; if you learn about dinosaurs, you will most likely also learn about a lot of scientific fields you would not necessarily be exposed to otherwise. On a more personal level, having grown up with and being influenced by various dinosaur media, it feels pretty cool to help spread knowledge about these animals, closest we can get to keeping them alive.

3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?

  • JL: Because we are a small but active and helpful community. Our Dinosaur collaboration, one of the very few active open collaborations in Wikipedia, makes high-level writing on important articles easier and more fun. Our collaboration is especially open to editors without prior experience in high-level writing. But we do not only write articles: several WikiProject Dinosaur participants are artists who do a great job illustrating the articles, and maintain an extensive and very active image review system. In fact, a number of later authors started with contributing images.
  • FM: Anyone who is interested in palaeontology is welcome to try writing articles, and we would be more than willing to help. I find that the more people that work on articles simultaneously with me, the more motivation I get to write myself. I am also one of those editors who started out contributing dinosaur illustrations and making minor edits, and only began writing after some years. But when I got to it, it wasn't as intimidating as I had feared, and I've learned a lot in the process. For example anatomy; if you know dinosaur anatomy, you have a very good framework for understanding the anatomy of other tetrapod animals, including humans.

4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?

  • FM: One of the main reasons I review GANs is to learn more about subjects that seem interesting (or which I would perhaps not come across otherwise). There are of course also more practical reasons, such as helping an article on its way towards FAC, to reduce the GAN backlog, and to "pay back" when I have a nomination up myself. It feels like a win-win situation where I can be entertained by interesting info, while also helping other editors get their nominations in shape, and we'll end up with an article that hopefully serves to educate a lot of people (the greater good).
  • JL: Because I enjoy reading Wikipedia articles and like to learn new things. In addition, reviews give me the opportunity to have direct contact with the authors, and help them to make their articles even better. This is quite rewarding for me personally. But I also review because I consider our GA and FA system to be of fundamental importance for Wikipedia. When I started editing Wikipedia (the German version), the article promotion reviews motivated me and improved my writing skills a lot. Submitting an article for review requires one to get serious and take additional steps to bring the article to the best quality possible. GAs and FAs are also a good starting point for readers, and may motivate them to become authors themselves.

5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable?

  • FM: One script that everyone should know about is the duplink highlight tool. It will show duplinks within the intro and body of a given article separately, and it seems a lot of people still don't know about it, though they are happy when introduced to it. I really liked the citationbot too (since citation consistency is a boring chore to me), but it seems to be blocked at the moment due to some technical issues.
  • JL: I often review using the Wikipedia Beta app on my smartphone, as it allows me to read without needing to sit in front of the PC. For writing, I find the reference management software Zotero invaluable, as it generates citation templates automatically, saving a lot of time.
    • Editor's note: I downloaded Zotero and tried it for the first time and think it is a very useful tool. More here.

6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?

  • FM: Perhaps that I have no background in natural history/science, but work with animation and games. But fascination with and knowledge of nature and animals is actually very helpful when designing and animating characters and creatures, so it isn't that far off, and I can actually use some of the things I learn while writing here for my work (when I wrote the Dromaeosauroides article, it was partially to learn more about the animal for a design-school project).
  • JL: That I am actually doing research on dinosaurs. Though I avoid writing about topics I publish research on, my Wikipedia work helps me to keep a good general overview over the field, and quite regularly I can use what I learned while writing for Wikipedia for my research.

Get in touch with these editors regarding collaboration at WikiProject Dinosaurs!

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June 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter


June 2019Issue 003


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Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

Masked booby by Casliber and Aa77zz, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Rook (bird) by Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
Vernonopterus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Super Dromaeosaurus
Campylocephalus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Super Dromaeosaurus
Unionopterus by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Ashorocetus
Big Cat, Little Cat by Barkeep49, reviewed by J Milburn
Félicette by Kees08, reviewed by Nova Crystallis

Newly nominated content

Masked booby by Casliber
Adelophthalmidae
Plains zebra by LittleJerry
Letter-winged kite by Casliber



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4.79
Fisheries and fishing
4.9
Dogs
4.91
Viruses
4.91
ToL
4.94
Cetaceans
4.97
Primates
4.98
Sharks
5.04
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5.05
Dinosaurs
5.12
Equine
5.15
Bats
5.25
Mammals
5.32
Aquarium fishes
5.35
Hypericaceae
5.38
Turtles
5.4
Birds
5.46
Australian biota
5.5
Marine life
5.54
Animals
5.56
Paleontology
5.57
Rodents
5.58
Amphibians and Reptiles
5.64
Fungi
5.65
Bivalves
5.66
Plants
5.67
Algae
5.68
Arthropods
5.69
Hymenoptera
5.72
Microbiology
5.72
Cephalopods
5.74
Fishes
5.76
Ants
5.79
Gastropods
5.8
Spiders
5.86
Insects
5.9
Beetles
5.98
Lepidoptera
5.98
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Spineless editors overwhelmed by stubs

Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.

Editor Spotlight: Showing love to misfit taxa

We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by NessieVL, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.

1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?

  • Nessie: The main force, then and now, driving me to create or edit articles is thinking "Why isn't there an article on that on Wikipedia?" Either I'll read about some rarely-sighted creature in the deep sea or find something new on iNaturalist and want to learn more. First stop (surprise!) is Wikipedia, and many times there is just a stub or no page at all. Sometimes I just add the source that got me to the article, not sometimes I go deep and try to get everything from the library or online journals and put it all in an article. The nice thing about taxa is the strong precedent that all accepted extant taxa are notable, so one does not need to really worry about doing a ton of research and having the page get removed. I was super worried about this as a new editor: I still really dislike conflict so if I can avoid it I do. Anyway, the most important part is stitching an article in to the rest of Wikipedia: Linking all the jargon, taxonomers, pollinators, etc., adding categories, and putting in the correct WikiProjects. Recently I have been doing more of the stitching-in stuff with extant articles. The last deep-dive article I made was Karuka at the end of last year, which is a bit of a break for me. I guess it's easier to do all the other stuff on my tablet while watching TV.

2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all representedare there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?

  • Nessie: I was a nerd from a time when that would get you beat up, so I like odd things and underdogs. I also avoid butting heads, so not only do I find siphonophores and seaweeds fascinating I don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes. I go down rabbitholes where I start writing an article like Mastocarpus papillatus because I found some growing on some rocks, then in my research I see it is parasitized by Pythium porphyrae, which has no article, and how can that be for an oomycete that oddly lives in the ocean and also attacks my tasty nori. So then I wrote that article and that got me blowing off the dust on other Oomycota articles, encouraged by the pull of propagating automatic taxoboxes. Once you've done the taxonomy template for the genus, well then you might as well do all the species now that the template is taken care of for them too. and so on until I get sucked in somewhere else. I think it's good to advocate for some of these 'oddball' taxa as it makes it easier for editors to expand their range from say plants to the pathogenic microorganisms of their favorite plant.
My favorite clades though, It's hard to pick for a dilettante like me. I like working on virus taxonomy, but I can't think of a specific virus species that I am awed by. Maybe Tulip breaking virus for teaching us economics or Variola virus for having so many smallpox deities, one of which was popularly sung about by Desi Arnaz and then inspired the name of a cartoon character who was then misremembered and then turned into a nickname for Howard Stern's producer Gary Dell'Abate. Sorry, really had to share that chain, but for a species that's not a staple food it probably has the most deities. But anyway, for having the most species that wow me, I love a good fungus or algae, but that often is led by my stomach. Also why I seem to research so many plant articles. You can't eat siphonophores, at least I don't, but they are fascinating with their federalist colonies of zooids. Bats are all amazing, but the task force seems to have done so much I feel the oomycetes and slime moulds need more love. Same thing with dinosaurs (I'm team Therizinosaurus though). But honestly, every species has that one moment in the research where you just go, wow, that's so interesting. For instance, I loved discovering that the picture-winged fly (Delphinia picta) has a mating dance that involves blowing bubbles. Now I keep expecting them to show me when they land on my arm, but no such luck yet.

3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?

  • Nessie: I initially started focusing on WikiProject talk page templates because they seem to be the key to data collecting and maintenance for articles, much more so than categories. This is where you note of an article needs an image, or audio, or a range map. It's how the cleanup listing bot sorts articles, and how Plantdrew does his automated taxobox usage stats. The latter inspired me to look for articles on organisms that are not assigned to any ToL WikiProjects which initially was in the thousands. I got it down to zero with just copypasta so you can imagine I was excited when I saw the rater tool. Back then I rated everything stub/low because it was faster: I couldn't check every article for the items on the B-class checklists. Plus each project has their own nuances to rating scales and I thought the editors in the individual projects would take it from there. I also thought all species were important, so how can I choose a favorite? Now it is much easier with the rater tool and the apparent consensus with Abductive's method of rating by the pageviews (0-9 views/day is low, 10-99 is med, 100-999 is high...). For the quality I generally go by the ORES rating, you caught me. It sometimes is thrown off by a long list of species or something, but it's generally good for stub to C: above that needs formal investigation and procedures I am still learning about. It seems that in the ToL projects we don't focus so much on getting articles to GA/FA so it's been harder to pick up. It was a little culture shock when I went on the Discord server and it seemed everyone was obsessed with getting articles up in quality. I think ToL is focusing on all the missing taxa and (re)organizing it all, which when you already have articles on every anime series or whatever you can focus on bulking the articles up more. In any event, on my growing to-do list is trying to get an article up to FA or GA and learn the process that way so I can better do the quality ratings and not just kick the can down the road.

4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?

  • Nessie: I mentioned earlier that the projects are the main way maintenance is done. And it is good that we have a bunch of subprojects that let those tasks get broken up into manageable pieces. Frankly I'm amazed anything gets done with WikiProject Plants with how huge its scope is. Yet this not only parcels out the work but the discussion as well. A few editors like Peter coxhead and Plantdrew keep an eye on many of the subprojects and spread the word, but it's still easy for newer editors to get a little lost. There should be balance between the lumping and splitting. The newsletter helps by crossing over all the WikiProjects, and if the discord channel picked up that would help too. Possibly the big Enwiki talk page changes will help as well.

5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?

  • Nessie: I'm not sure anything would be surprising. I focus on nature offline too, foraging for mushrooms or wild plants and trying to avoid ticks and mosquitos. I have started going magnet fishing lately, more to help clean up the environment than in the hopes of finding anything valuable. But it would be fun to find a weapon and help solve a cold case or something.
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Guano by Enwebb, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
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Leptospirosis by Cerevisae, reviewed by Ajpolino
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Christmas darter by Enwebb and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
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Segnosaurus by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
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Congrats to your first FA, finally! We can be proud of it. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 15:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks so much for working on it with me and all the help you provided! I've learned a lot about the article writing and review process! And it's great to have a featured article for such an important sauropod as well! --Slate WeaselT - C - S⟩ 15:38, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Coronariae by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by Dank
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Lythronax by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Ichthyovenator by PaleoGeekSquared, reviewed by FunkMonk
Secretarybird by LittleJerry, Aa77zz and Casliber, reviewed by The Rambling Man
James John Joicey by RLO1729, reviewed by The Rambling Man
Homo naledi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Vermilion flycatcher by CaptainEek, reviewed by HickoryOughtShirt?4
Canada lynx by Sainsf, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Alice Gray by Rhododendrites, reviewed by The Rambling Man
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Jaguarundi by Sainsf, reviewed by Usernameunique
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Ichthyovenator by PaleoGeekSquared
Neanderthal by Dunkleosteus77
Alpine newt by Tylototriton
Secretarybird by LittleJerry, Aa77zz and Casliber
List of ursids by PresN
Borchgrevinkium by Super Dromaeosaurus
Caryodendron orinocense by CPC273
Siamosaurus by PaleoGeekSquared
Canada lynx by Sainsf
Vietnam mouse-deer by Sainsf
Jaguarundi by Sainsf
Vermilion flycatcher by CaptainEek
Alice Gray by Rhododendrites
Gigantopithecus by Dunkleosteus77
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Nakalipithecus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Gog the Mild
Scanisaurus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Gog the Mild
Sand cat by BhagyaMani, reviewed by Aven13
Pigs in culture by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Sainsf
Sun bear by Sainsf, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Megacephalosaurus by Macrophyseter, reviewed by Aven13
Cinnamon red bat by Enwebb, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Banteng by Sainsf, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Cartorhynchus by Lythronaxargestes, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Black-footed cat by BhagyaMani, reviewed by Amitchell125
Homo ergaster by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Black coral by Aven13, reviewed by Sainsf
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Australopithecus garhi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Hog Farm
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Leech by LittleJerry, Chiswick Chap and Cwmhiraeth
List of mephitids by PesN
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Cinnamon red bat by Enwebb
Kristianstad Basin by Ichthyovenator
Nakalipithecus by Dunkleosteus77
Scanisaurus by Ichthyovenator
Sun bear by Sainsf
Heuglin's gazelle by Sainsf
Black coral by Aven13
Australopithecus garhi by Dunkleosteus77
Chororapithecus by Dunkleosteus77
Northern crested newt by Tylototriton
Megacephalosaurus by Macrophyseter
Banteng by Sainsf
Cartorhynchus by Lythronaxargestes
Ornithocheiromorpha by JurassicClassic767
Black-footed cat by BhagyaMani
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Homo ergaster by Ichthyovenator
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Skeletals from Paul (2010)

Hello. I've seen your comment on WikiProject Dinosaurs' image review page about Gregory S. Paul having a Saichania skeletal in the 2010 edition of his Field Guide to Dinosaurs but not in the 2016 edition. This leads me to believe you have copies of both editions. Now, I only have a copy of the 2016 edition, so can you tell me which taxa are illustrated in the 2010 edition but not the 2016 one? Also, if you could, can you send me the skeletals that are not in the 2016 edition? Thanks in advance. Atlantis536 (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Besides Saichania, the only other skeletals are those of Indosuchus and "Mamenchisaurus" sinocanadorum, both of which are highly problematic. The Indosuchus combines remains from several Indian abelisaurs of different size into a strange chimaera. I'm not fully sure about the accuracy of the Saichania, as I realize that it may be somewhat "tainted" by Tianzhenosaurus. I'm still waiting to see if the skeletal's deemed accurate on the DINOART page, so I think it's best to wait until people with more ankylosaur experience than me comment on it. --Slate WeaselT - C - S⟩ 19:31, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I see. Thanks! Atlantis536 (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

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Australopithecus deyiremeda by Dunkleosteus77
Australopithecus sediba by Dunkleosteus77
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Homo habilis by Dunkleosteus77
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Ornithocheiridae by JurassicClassic767
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Just a quick question. The article Ruyangosaurus claims that R. giganteous is 50+tonnes, yet, in your scaling, it has an unreasonably small body. Am I wrong to say Ruyangosauurus' body was larger?PNSMurthy (talk) 09:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

The scale in question is to the left.
Size comparison
PNSMurthy (talk) 09:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
I think that the torso is a composite, so its proportions aren't too certain, and to reliably know the torso's shape we'd need complete dorsal ribs, which I think we are lacking. I think that the torso of Ruyangosaurus could have been rather broad (although the dorsal vertebrae aren't very complete, and I don't know an awful lot about this taxon, unfortunately), though, so that might help it achieve greater masses. --Slate WeaselT - C - S⟩ 12:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Okay then. It is a very incomplete specimen...PNSMurthy (talk) 00:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
What do you use to make your comparison?PNSMurthy (talk) 09:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
As always, the reference(s) I based the silhouette and size on are listed in the file description. --Slate WeaselT - C - S⟩ 11:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Ah yes, randomdinos. I remember seeing that piece of his work. I meant; what application you use.PNSMurthy (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Oh, I use a program called Inkscape. It's free open-source software and really useful. --Slate WeaselT - C - S⟩ 00:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Ah yes, thanks.PNSMurthy (talk) 02:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Tell me, what is Ruyangosaurus' length? Isn't it around 35 metres? As far as I have seen, that is the size articles state. Your scaling of it seems to be quite short? Am I wrong?PNSMurthy (talk) 07:53, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
It's about 30 m (98 ft), matching Paul's estimate, which is also stated in the article. --Slate WeaselT - C - S⟩ 12:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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