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Proposed deletion of Prehistoric kingdom

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Nomination of Prehistoric kingdom for deletion
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April 2018
Welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions are appreciated, but, in this edit to Prehistoric kingdom, you removed Articles for deletion notices from articles or removed other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates. This makes it difficult to establish consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. -★- PlyrStar93. →Message me. ← 01:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Australian Spinosaurid for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Glyphis pagoda

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Glyphis pagoda requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
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Welcome to wikipedia
Welcome to wikipedia!, it's always nice to see new faces around here. Sorry for all these deletion notices, it must feel quite disheaterning, I don't think the reason that they're being deleted is that they are not notable enough, but that the fist draft normally needs to be significantly more substantial, this can be done by writing your article in your sandbox section prior to creating the article, so you can get a better sense of formatting and so on, If you need any help let me know
Kind regards Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Are you Richard.sutt?
Hello, I just wanted to ask if you are the same user as Richard.sutt, as you seem to have similar interests and edit histories. If you didn't know, using multiple user accounts to make edits without disclosing the fact is considered suspicous activity. A user by the name of Ozarcusmapesae has recently been causing havoc on dinosaur wikipedia pages by using multiple accounts to publish hoax articles and other nuisances. Although WikiProject: Paleontology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Palaeontology) does not believe that you are the same person as this vandal, we do think that some of your edits are poorly researched and generally not very constructive. We don't want to ban you, but we would like some communication to help you become a more constructive wikipedia editor. To start, we would like you to stop using multiple accounts for your edits, an activity which is called "sockpuppeting" here. You may find yourself unfairly banned if some moderator considers you a vandal like Ozarcusmapesae. Please choose to use your main account, whether it be this account or Richard.sutt. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 16:41, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
He's not me
No, he is not me I assure you. (User talk: Richard.sutt)Richard.sutt (talk) 20:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
April 2018
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give South Asian river dolphin a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
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Australian Spinosaurid
Hello Bubblesorg. The content of the Australian Spinosaurid article was merged into the Spinosauridae article yesterday because of a consensus at this discussion to do so. Most editors agreed that a separate article for the Australian Spinosaurid should not be created. Accordingly, please do not recreate the article without discussing it with other editors first and gaining a consensus. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thank you. Mz7 (talk) 08:30, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
- As an aside to this, I don't think that the article was a clear cut delete decision, and I personally disagree with it. I don't think your decision to create the article was wrong. though I respect consensus and don't think the article should be recreated. I think the reason it got the speedy delete was because the initial article was not to be rude, was very brief, and had poor citations. Usually people who do delete requests don't bother to view the article on the merits of the subject of page but rather the initial quality of writing in the article. Had the article initially been in the condition I updated it to with the improved formatting and research paper references, I don't think it would've ever got deleted. For example the spinosaur Ostafrikasaurus is known from a single tooth, yet apparently is worthy of an article simply because somebody gave it a scientific name. Gurlin Tsav skull or Angloposeidon don't have a proper names, but nobody delete requested those articles either. In future, just make a properly formatted article with a few journal references, and it probably won't get deleted Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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April 2018
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:South Asian river dolphin#Seperate articles!. Such edits are disruptive, and may appear to other editors to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Matthew_hk tc 02:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I've moved your article here so you can work on bringing it up to standard before moving it to article space. Deb (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
WikiCommons
Hi Bubblesorg, I appreciate that you like uploading images to Wikicommons to help improve articles. However, when people take photographs, they own something called Copyright on them, which means that it can't be used unless they have said you can, this can be done in a number of ways most commonly by releasing them under what is called a creative commons license, the general rule is if you can find the license information and it is compatible with wikicommons licensing (notably wikicommons does not allow non commercial licenses) then you can upload it. Otherwise you shouldn't as it will just get deleted and you will get told off. (I've had this happen to myself so don't worry). if you need to use an image but can't find the licence, or is copyrighted. and you think that there are no possible alternatives to using the image, you can upload to wikipedia directly and use a Fair use justification. To be honest this stuff is very complex and a headache even for adults, and I would personally refrain from uploading images to commons unless you've taken them yourself, Kind regards Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:49, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Your user page
Hi Bubblesorg, I'm Primefac. You'll likely not be pleased about this but I have removed some of your edits because they reveal too much personally identifiable information about you. We have a policy of protecting editors' safety by hiding such information if they share it. I'm really sorry about having to suppress your edits, and I know it's annoying, but it's for the best. Please don't re-add the information. For some useful information on privacy and safety, you can take a look at Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors and Wikipedia:On privacy, confidentiality and discretion. Thank you, and sorry for messing about with your edits! Primefac (talk) 18:56, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
A WP:TROUT for you
You reverted my edit on salmon, which solved a {{dn}} tag – and you unsolved it, so recreating the problem.
Well, not a trout, but the same family - a salmon.
. Narky Blert (talk) 21:53, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion of Prehistoric kingdom

The article Prehistoric kingdom has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
An unreleased game without any reliable secondary source to support its notability (see WP:GNG and WP:reliable source). Currently the page was only cited by primary source (store page to buy the game as well as kickstarter)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Prehistoric kingdom

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A tag has been placed on Prehistoric kingdom, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.
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Nomination of Prehistoric kingdom for deletion (2nd Afd)
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- Please do not delete the prehistoric Kingdom Page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 16:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Bubblesorg: Please read WP:GNG and WP:Deletion policy before recreating article, as you did in Prehistoric kingdom and Australian Spinosaurid. Matthew_hk tc 16:11, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Prehistoric kingdom

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You are starting to be more troublesome than helpful
Bubblesorg, please take some advice. Your recent edits show a general disregard for the rules here, and you are currently creating more work, and making trouble, than you are being helpful. You must know that unsourced stubs like Tursiops osennae() and Boston roll() are not acceptable. You must be aware that even if you can be bothered to provide a source, an article like Idiorophus needs a taxobox. Euselachii is a complete unreadable mess, and functionally unreferenced. And if you don't understand that whatever that is supposed to be at Talk:Prehistoric kingdom is completely pointless and only demonstrates an inability to work in a cooperative environment, then... I don't think you will have a long tenure here. Sharpen up and read what people write on your talk page. Reference all material. At least try to write legible sentences. If everything you do has to be cleaned up, top to bottom, by multiple other editors, you are not helping. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Gawd... and File:Washington_state_Therapod.png is not your own work, and you can't claim it as such. Nominated for deletion at Commons. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Elmidae: Done. @Bubblesorg: In reply to your statement (Special:Diff/839138489) Even you own the copyright of the image and you wish to upload to wikipedia under certain license, the image was still subject to deletion (e.g. selfie are most likely to be deleted), for image that you don't own the copyright, or some image that you edited, you only own the copyright of the edits, not the base image itself, so they are still subject to deletion due to copyrights violation. Matthew_hk tc 18:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Also, adding a map of Mongolia to the Velociraptor article as a "range map" is pretty ridiculous. This editor needs to start consulting other editors before doing anything, it seems. FunkMonk (talk) 19:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've been following his edits for some time now and most of them just don't make a lot of sense, some of them border on deliberately disruptive. He also often reverts some of his own edits, presumably after realizing they're a bad idea. Here and also here He states Allosaurus lived well into the late cretaceous, and that tyrannosaurus became extinct 65 million years ago . The allosaurus one was also after FunkMonk had stated he should consult with other editors before doing anything so drastic. ▼PσlєοGєєкƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ (Contribs) 00:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello it’s me bubblesorg I am a (Not 6Yearold) space and biology enthusiast. I see there is some trouble. Bubblesorg (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Bubblesorg:, It seem you either did not read the warning and comment in this talk page, or read but did not understand, or read but failed to show you are understand what specific issue had happened in your own word. You will keep receiving message and warning if you fail to understand and correct what you do. Matthew_hk tc 05:14, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC))Matthew HK i never said it was a Tasmianin devil i never edited that dude the last edit i made on the river dolphin page was the fact it lived during the Miocene as well.Also i was aking for help on sources whn i sent my messeges. Why would i say it was a Tassie Devil i was confused i thought you sent a joke or something.
Citation
We don't use other language wikipedia as citation, as you did in Euselachii. Matthew_hk tc 18:15, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 2)

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South Asian river dolphin
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It certainly not a Tasmanian devil Matthew_hk tc 01:54, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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J. David Archibald moved to draftspace
Please make sure that a person is notable before trying to create a biographical article about them. I very much doubt this one is. Guidelines to decide that are at WP:NACADEMIC. I've moved the article to draftspace so you can check that out in peace. If it doesn't look as if you can satisfy these requirements AND present the required sources, please don't move this into main space again. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 09:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Orcinus meyeri

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A page you started (Orcinus meyeri) has been reviewed!
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Ways to improve Palaeotriakis curtirostris
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Proposed deletion of Partridge Creek monster (Cryptid)

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Nomination of Partridge Creek monster (Cryptid) for deletion
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Do you wanna write an article with me?
Summer's coming up, and I wanna get South Polar dinosaur up to GA, and I can't figure out how to do that, and you have a pretty unorthodox approach on approaching things around here, and I figure you might learn a couple things about writing for Wikipedia in the process, so I was wondering, as a fellow teen Wikipedian, if you'd like to write South Polar dinosaur with me and nominate it with me at the end of it all. So you know, heavy editing probably won't start until summer begins and most of July's vacation time for me, and journal articles and books're just about all we're allowed to cite on this User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 00:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC) (Bubblesorg (talk) 01:56, 26 May 2018 (UTC))
- Yes I did start to add some sources I will help you out. I will replace with some jurols and books. I just added some sources that were not books and stuff because i did not want the article to be deleted.
- Just so there's no confusion, I'm asking you if you want to write South Polar dinosaurs with me User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC))yes
- How do you think the discussion on the actual dinosaurs should go? I think List of Australian and Antarctic dinosaurs will get merged into the article very soon, so that covers species pretty effectively. I'm thinking maybe a section on adaptations these animals had for the polar forests, and then maybe a section on the paleoecology of the place (apex predator and possible hibernation and so forth). Maybe here'd be the place (or maybe in a separate paleobiology section) for discussion on the non-dinos of the the south polar forests. Have you got anything different? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:01, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 20:48, 28 May 2018 (UTC))I think merging might be a great idea.
(Bubblesorg (talk) 22:42, 28 May 2018 (UTC))Only one problem with merging.[1][2][3]
- The dinosaurs'd be the ones from Australia and Antarctica, since those were the only continents that were below the Antarctic circle in the Cretaceous, but the problem is that not all the dinosaurs on the List of Australian and Antarctic dinosaurs are from the Cretaceous, so not all are South Polar dinosaurs (like Cryolophosaurus is from the Jurassic Antarctica, north of the Antarctic circle). That's a fair point. Do you think there should be a separate list at South Polar dinosaur, or none at all? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 01:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC))Yes for the cretaceous dinosaurs
(Bubblesorg (talk) 16:55, 29 May 2018 (UTC))I think what we should do is put a list of Cretaceous polar dinosaurs and ones from the late Jurassic. All dinosaurs in that list should be 145 mya at the oldest and the youngest 66/65 mya for the list. This is stated in the article that the polar forests formed 145 mya and lasted into the end of the Maastrichtian.
Think this is good?
- Hi, from a brief look at the article I think one of the main issues is scope, both temporally and spatailly, at minimum, all of antarctica and at least the southern part of Australia (ie Dinosaur Cove etc) are included. Do formations from Northern Australia like the Winton formation count?, What about the New Zealand Dinosaur taxa like the fragmentary remains from the Takatika grit in the Chatham islands? It's obvious that the fauna of East Gondwanaland- i.e. (Australia, Antarctica, NZ) is distinct from that of the rest of Gondwana, due to the Absence of any Abelisaur remains, at least in Australia (All large bodied theropods in Australia from the Aptian onward seem to be megaraptors) and the presence of basal Ankylosaur taxa which are completely absent from at least South America until the Maastrichtian. In my own recollection "South polar dinosaur" has pretty much been solely used to describe dinosaurs from the Early-Mid Cretaceous of Southern Australia, pretty much the "Spirits of the Ice Forest" episode of Walking with Dinosaurs. Before the article can be improved, the geographical scope must be defined first Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Hemiauchenia: Effectively any dinosaur that could've lived within the Antarctic circle is what I'm seeing it as, but you have a point. It's not really possible to have a complete list of the dinosaurs that lived below the Antarctic circle because there's no unified list of them all that might've lived in that region, there's only by continent if at all. Also there was land below the Antarctic circle during the Jurassic so it'd get pretty weird. Should I just remove the list then from South Polar dinosaur? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, from a brief look at the article I think one of the main issues is scope, both temporally and spatailly, at minimum, all of antarctica and at least the southern part of Australia (ie Dinosaur Cove etc) are included. Do formations from Northern Australia like the Winton formation count?, What about the New Zealand Dinosaur taxa like the fragmentary remains from the Takatika grit in the Chatham islands? It's obvious that the fauna of East Gondwanaland- i.e. (Australia, Antarctica, NZ) is distinct from that of the rest of Gondwana, due to the Absence of any Abelisaur remains, at least in Australia (All large bodied theropods in Australia from the Aptian onward seem to be megaraptors) and the presence of basal Ankylosaur taxa which are completely absent from at least South America until the Maastrichtian. In my own recollection "South polar dinosaur" has pretty much been solely used to describe dinosaurs from the Early-Mid Cretaceous of Southern Australia, pretty much the "Spirits of the Ice Forest" episode of Walking with Dinosaurs. Before the article can be improved, the geographical scope must be defined first Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:05, 30 May 2018 (UTC))Yeah i think its a good idea for know. I did find a book about polar dinosaurs. I think you mentioned only using boos and journals. [4]
- that’s good, do you have access to it? I don’t User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 13:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2018 (UTC))I can see if i can get access it looks expensive. But I will try. If no I will look at some where else.
- You don’t have to buy it, I’ll try to see if I can find a way to get a free preview User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 17:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 21:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC))Ok that gret i treid to look to see if there was one.I anyways have a Book about australian dinosaurs i will see if i could use that.
- Couldn't find a free pdf, but looking over other sources who do use that book, we can kinda piece together what it would say and include the info in the article that way. I wouldn't say we absolutely have to have this book as a ref, but if you really are determined, you could check your local library or school library (I have my doubts they'll keep it in stock though). I would not recommend shelling out good money over this. Also, I'm wondering what that book of yours has to say on Australian dinosaurs; guess I'll find out soon enough when you add it to the article User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 22:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Do you think it'd be a good idea to include avian-dinosaurs in a separate section from non-avian dinosaurs? I'd use this ref for the avian-dinosaurs. Also, do you wanna expand the lead a little? I'm not sure what should be included, but from the size of the article I'd say it should be a good two or maybe three paragraphs User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 01:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Couldn't find a free pdf, but looking over other sources who do use that book, we can kinda piece together what it would say and include the info in the article that way. I wouldn't say we absolutely have to have this book as a ref, but if you really are determined, you could check your local library or school library (I have my doubts they'll keep it in stock though). I would not recommend shelling out good money over this. Also, I'm wondering what that book of yours has to say on Australian dinosaurs; guess I'll find out soon enough when you add it to the article User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 22:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 14:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC))You mean birds like Vegavis?
- yes, birds of Cretaceous South Pole User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 18:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Are you finding anything linking Koolasuchus, the mammals, the plesiosaurs, or the pterosaurs to the dinosaurs in any way? Did they leave any impact on the other? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 22:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- yes, birds of Cretaceous South Pole User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 18:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)) My Austrlian Dinosaur book actully mentions places fossils of Koolasuchus and some Freshwater Plesiosaurs were found. (Bubblesorg (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC))It mentions the fossil fragments too.
- Remember, any info you add on a non-dino needs to be at least loosely connected to dinosaurs, so is there anything in that book on Koolasuchus or plesiosaurs that in some way affects the dinosaurs or maybe draws conclusions on the climate of East Gondwana? Also, Cretaceous birds, yes or no? Also, this might be extreme but it is possible to change the name of the article to encompass all aspects of the South Polar region of the Cretaceous (dinosaurs, amphibians, plesiosaurs, etc.), is that a direction you wanna go in? It's big, so if you say yes, we'll need to establish consensus with WP:WikiProject Dinosaurs, but I'm fairly certain I can convince them of it. Yes or no? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 01:51, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 02:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)) Yes. There is many things about dinosaurs. The book shows predator prey relationships. Talks about gowndwanas slow but changing climate through time. The books called Amazing Facts about Australian Dinosaurs. It It may have a few flaws though. Like australovenator is not named. The Environment is shown and how different organisms interact in some pictures. Sorry if you do not find these things in the book, There is a discription of the environment while the formation was inhabited by Dinosaurs. Look to the last few pages. you will find some Dinosaurs that may be considered Polar Dinosaurs.
- Might have some problems given it’s a children’s book, but if you find anything good, all you need to do is verify it with some other more reputable source. Like if Amazing Facts says Koolasuchus ate Laellynasaura, try to find another source that corroborates that (like a journal or a different book) and use the new source you found as a ref, then add that Koolasuchus ate Laellynasaura User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 14:49, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- * I remember reading something about Koolasuchus which talked about how it could tolerate colder temperatures than crocodiles, and therefore was confined to the south pole, and when it became warmer, the crocodiles replaced them. I think the Eumerella/Wonthaggi formations need to be discussed in detail given that they typify the South polar dinosaur archetypal environment, given that we lack similarly aged sediments from antarctica Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:06, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2018 (UTC))Where did you get this information?
- It's in The Last Last Labyrinthodonts? Which is the Koolasuchus holotype description paper, published in 1997 Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:24, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Also where it says no ornithomimosaurs are known from gondwana isn't true as Nqwebasaurus is known from South africa, however a lot of the descriptions of the initial dinosaur cove taxa like timimus etc are based on very fragmentary remains, and I personally think their higher level taxonomic assignments are dubious and would strongly advise against using them for their taxonomic identification, and use more recent papers as sources. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:26, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Also are we going to reference the possible cretaceous Dicynodont referenced in The last dicynodont: an Australian Cretaceous relict? Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Originally I tried to stay away from those because I was thinking it strayed too far from the main point, but I'm seeing your point, they are integral parts of the whole landscape of East Gondwana. My worry is there's gonna end up being more discussion on South Polar region than the South Polar dinosaurs. Maybe the article needs a name change User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- I think that the whole idea of south polar dinosaur is really vague, as we don't have any fossil record of dinosaurs in Antarctica after the early Jurassic until the last few million years of the Cretaceous, so we have no idea what is going on there really. It's also not very good in Australia with only the mid cretaceous being well represented in terms of dinosaur fossils. It's also not like the classic Dinosaur Cove localities are the Hell Creek or Jehol or anything, being known mostly from quite scrappy remains. Does the Winton formation Muttaburrasaurus, Australovenator etc even count as South polar?, as papers I've read suggest that it barely ever frosted, and is similar in latitude to the Nequen basin, which isn't considered South polar. It's also obvious that east gondwanaland isn't completely isolated either, as Hadrosaurid teeth have been found in Antarctica (almost certainly from kritosaurine hadrosaurs that migrated from south america after they arrived there from north america during the Campanian-Maastrichtian) and the Liptoptern and astrapothere mammals in Eocene formations which are also found in south america. I think expanding to "South Polar" taxa generally is advisable, given the paucity of current dinosaur material. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- The argument most sources make is that the dinosaurs of Australia migrated across Antarctica from South America, so they did exist in Antarctica. It's just that Antarctica is so remote that fossils actually south of the polar line derive mainly from southwest Australia. Do you think something like South Polar region of the Cretaceous would work? I'm hesitant to expand into the Eocene for South Polar forests User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 22:56, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- I don't necessarily disagree with the assertion for early-mid cretaceous onwards. when the gondwanaland breakup gets in fully swing, but for instance there is no evidence of rhabdodontomorphs in south america. and these would have presumably migrated to Australia via africa sometime around the Jurassic-Cretaceous boundary, but who knows. My main thing is how much differentiation is there between the fauna of Northern and Southern Australia really, and are they distinct enough to warrant a south polar dinosaur distinction? I'm not sure the fossil record is good enough to tell. Yeah don't bother including the Eocene stuff, I was just giving it as an example of the land connection. Some comment should probably be made though about the hadrosaurid arrival in antartica during the Maastrichtian though. I agree that your first title suggestion is much more descriptive than the current one.Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- My problem'd be geology would have to have a heavier focus, and I'm trying right now to dance around it because I have absolutely no grasp of geology whatsoever, so I don't know what's important to include and what's page-filler and specialist-level stuff. Should South Polar dinosaur be moved into East Gondwana or South Polar region of the Cretaceous, do you think you'd be able to help out with geology? Or Bubblesorg, how's your grasp on geology? Think you can make it? The article as it is now really does need a section on geology and continental drift during the Cretaceous anyways User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- I don't necessarily disagree with the assertion for early-mid cretaceous onwards. when the gondwanaland breakup gets in fully swing, but for instance there is no evidence of rhabdodontomorphs in south america. and these would have presumably migrated to Australia via africa sometime around the Jurassic-Cretaceous boundary, but who knows. My main thing is how much differentiation is there between the fauna of Northern and Southern Australia really, and are they distinct enough to warrant a south polar dinosaur distinction? I'm not sure the fossil record is good enough to tell. Yeah don't bother including the Eocene stuff, I was just giving it as an example of the land connection. Some comment should probably be made though about the hadrosaurid arrival in antartica during the Maastrichtian though. I agree that your first title suggestion is much more descriptive than the current one.Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- The argument most sources make is that the dinosaurs of Australia migrated across Antarctica from South America, so they did exist in Antarctica. It's just that Antarctica is so remote that fossils actually south of the polar line derive mainly from southwest Australia. Do you think something like South Polar region of the Cretaceous would work? I'm hesitant to expand into the Eocene for South Polar forests User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 22:56, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- I think that the whole idea of south polar dinosaur is really vague, as we don't have any fossil record of dinosaurs in Antarctica after the early Jurassic until the last few million years of the Cretaceous, so we have no idea what is going on there really. It's also not very good in Australia with only the mid cretaceous being well represented in terms of dinosaur fossils. It's also not like the classic Dinosaur Cove localities are the Hell Creek or Jehol or anything, being known mostly from quite scrappy remains. Does the Winton formation Muttaburrasaurus, Australovenator etc even count as South polar?, as papers I've read suggest that it barely ever frosted, and is similar in latitude to the Nequen basin, which isn't considered South polar. It's also obvious that east gondwanaland isn't completely isolated either, as Hadrosaurid teeth have been found in Antarctica (almost certainly from kritosaurine hadrosaurs that migrated from south america after they arrived there from north america during the Campanian-Maastrichtian) and the Liptoptern and astrapothere mammals in Eocene formations which are also found in south america. I think expanding to "South Polar" taxa generally is advisable, given the paucity of current dinosaur material. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Originally I tried to stay away from those because I was thinking it strayed too far from the main point, but I'm seeing your point, they are integral parts of the whole landscape of East Gondwana. My worry is there's gonna end up being more discussion on South Polar region than the South Polar dinosaurs. Maybe the article needs a name change User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:47, 4 June 2018 (UTC))I do not have the heviest grasp of Geology. I just studied a little bit of it. I have had experience about learning about it since 7. I did watch something about the Triassic extinction creating Gondwanaland after the continents split.
- now that I’m thinking about it, you could draw on the article Gondwana for info pertaining to East Gondwana. Perhaps starts at the breakup Pangaea and go from there until the end of the Cretaceous. Do you think major fossil-bearing formations should be discussed here in this section also? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 16:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Bubblesorg (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)You mean like the winton Formation. Also what about Marine reptiles? Like the richmond Pliosaurs and Kronosaurs. I found a book by Dugal Dixon in my shelf that i saw a paleontologist use once. One of the paleo art deceptions shows Ornithopods in the snow.
- sounds kinda like an outdated depiction. What book’s this? Bear in mind, science changes really fast, so make sure what you find in that book you coraborate with a couple other sources preferably more recent) just to make sure it’s still the case today User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 18:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Bubblesorg (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)https://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Encyclopedia-Dinosaurs-Prehistoric-Creatures/dp/1846812097
- it looks like another kid’s book, so whatever you find in there, find a more reputable source (like online or something) and use that as your reference. Also, make sure it’s talking about the South Pole and not the North Pole User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:52, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Bubblesorg (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)Its not a kids book. I saw paleontologist use it once to identify some stuff at a museum. It uses pretty complicated language which when i bought it would be hard to understand. This is quite literally judging a book by its cover.
- I just looked at all the reviews and they read, "bought it for my 3.5 year old," "my little cousin loves it," "my 8 year old..." User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 22:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC))i guess there are looking at the pictures not the words. It actually says words like Cranial and some other stuff. But i do agree its outdated showing basilosaurus in Australia (Like mammalodon is the same thing,Its not) and skipping Tiktaalik. But it does have feathered dinosaurs and slight feathering on leanosyura (i spelled it wrong didn't I. I do not believe Ornithopods ever saw that much snow as seen in the book however. The mesozoic even with some cold places was still warmer than today.
- The book is still good, just be careful and fact-check it against some other sources. Also, do you wanna expand the lead a little? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 00:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
OK so I'm joining this project now at Bubblesorg's invite. I did a cursory scan of the article (I'll look more in depth later when I have time). Just as a general comment, the article's title suggests it is mainly about dinosaurs, but the article has more space devoted to talking about non-dinosaurian flora and fauna. Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 01:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Ashorocetus: Yeah, it's on the table renaming the article to East Gondwana or South Polar region of the Cretaceous. Thoughts on the matter are welcome. My problem is that that would require a lot more in-depth discussion on geology, the whole breakup of Gondwana from Pangaea, then the eventual break-up of East Gondwana itself, and in-depth discussion on major fossil-bearing formations. From all the stuff I've already added about the animals and plants themselves, not much intensive searching is really all too necessary to figure out which formations are the big ones, my problem is that I don't know what's important or significant to add on any of that stuff. Hemiauchenia seems to have some kinda background on this kinda stuff, or at least a more in-depth idea of what s/he wants to see. Do you think you all could work on some kinda Geology section that discusses all that? I hope you're watching this page and, with that, welcome to the team editor number 4 User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- That is definitely a good idea. On principal, I don't think our own limitations of expertise should limit what goes into the article. I can work on that but to be totally honest my life is likely to be pretty busy for several months so I can't guarantee any major contribution. I'll do what I can but I can probably be most useful to review or find sources (I have access to pretty good libraries). Is our goal GA status? Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 05:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- that’s the plan, I feel all the sources right now are pretty reliable (though some may be on the older side), though if you find any other good ones, go ahead and add what you can User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 14:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- That is definitely a good idea. On principal, I don't think our own limitations of expertise should limit what goes into the article. I can work on that but to be totally honest my life is likely to be pretty busy for several months so I can't guarantee any major contribution. I'll do what I can but I can probably be most useful to review or find sources (I have access to pretty good libraries). Is our goal GA status? Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 05:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC))I know something about Birds like vegvis being ancestors of water foul and them moving up to south america like in argentina. Correct me if i am wrong. Also wasn't australia flooded in some arras at the time?
- Yep, Eromanga Sea took up present day central Australia and Queensland. I haven’t started reading up on the birds yet so I don’t know about the waterfowl User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 14:57, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
If i am not correct Didn't Basilosaurids live in that after the Dinosaurs?
- I suppose, the sea existed from 100 mya up until 10 mya User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:45, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I will try to go to the library to find books this weekend.--Bubblesorg (talk) 00:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- On the other hand, you could always look stuff up on the Internet. That’s what most editors (to my knowledge at least) do; there’s no rule against using the Internet, only that whatever you find has to be reputable. On the other other hand, maybe you’ll find a book that can’t be accessed online, who knows? Good luck User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 01:59, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 02:28, 12 June 2018 (UTC)) I am doing that. Just no fossilworks right? Just use their sources?
- fossilworks is completely fine actually, we use it all the time here. There's even a template for it. I may have been too restrictive when I said "only journals and books," websites are completely okay so long as they're reliable. If a site is written by a plesiosaur expert, for example, then it's okay to use the site. The only rule in refs is that it has to be reliable, really. It has to be written by somebody who really knows what they're talking about, and we have good reason to believe the author's an expert on the topic User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 02:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Since you redirected it I will try to find more on cretaceous gondwana. Let me see if there is any online info. Also please tell when you have redirected something(Bubblesorg (talk) 23:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)). (Bubblesorg (talk) 14:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC))some documentry about austrlia said that when it went up it caused hevy climactic changes. I think that is dribble.
- Yeah, this article’s going to have to cover in the Landscape section, maybe as a subheading, how the Eromanga Sea formed and its effects on the area in the Cretaceous. Maybe in this same section if you find any important lakes or rivers (I’m not sure if you will find any important lakes or rivers though) mention them here. In my experience, documentaries are not banned, they’re just really scrutinized. If you find the documentary let me know, but since you already seem to have an idea what kind of info you’re looking for, ask the Internet would be my advice User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 14:52, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 02:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)) I may be offline for a little bit maybe for one or three days but i will be back. I may give some facts but not much so i will get back as soon as possible.
- Okay, when you get back, could you expand the lead; write a geography (or maybe Geology) section which talks about continental drift, the Eromanga sea, maybe important fossil-bearing formations, and whatever else you see as notable; and help me reorganize the article a little? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:19, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 03:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC))OK Yes i have come back i will write something about gondwana. Sorry for the wait.Bubblesorg (talk) 04:17, 17 June 2018 (UTC) Ok check the article help me with the Eromanga Sea section.--Bubblesorg (talk) 02:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Ok some idiot in school used my computer to create an account (i thought him how to do that) he basically bullies (calls me a nerd) And vandalizaed an edit of basilosaurs. Funk monk thought i was me and blocked me from editing for a bit. I told him so i hpe he understands.
- Well I guess we'll have to wait till that blows over. I didn't realize you were still in school, mine got out just a week ago. Anyways, I got you started on a little Geology section, we'll have to see what direction you take that in. It is by no means, as it stand right now, complete or a template that you should restrict yourself to as you continue to expand the section or divide it into smaller subsections should you feel the need to do so. Research. Use the internet, google scholar, read over and synthesize anything you think may be important (and if it isn't all too important, you always have me and whoever else may be reading the page or the GA process to make everything more concise). You can build on what's already there, and along the way, read on related subjects and add them into the article. You can do this, I believe in you. It's not as hard as it looks once you get started on reading User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- In the further reading section there's Encyclopedia of the Antarctic, you can use that, it mainly talks about geology. Keyword search "Cretaceous," don't read the entire book, just the relevant portions, that's effectively all I did for the Geology section just right now and I only read the first instance of 8. to cite this, I used {{harvid|}}, which means all you have to do to cite it is put down {{sfn|Riffenburgh|2007|loc=p. [insert page number used]}} and you're all set with that one User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:42, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
(Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 19 June 2018 (UTC))Which one? is there a link to one.
- Yeah, the one entitled “Encyclopedia of the Antarctic,” there’s a link to the google books preview, I think most or all the pages relevant to the article are open for preview (at least to me) User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 15:11, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
I think i am back i can edit on both computer so i think i might be fine.--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC) I can edit again --Bubblesorg (talk) 01:54, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- well get to it then on that Geology section User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 03:23, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- So how’s that Geology section coming? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 14:14, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Yeah its going good i am right now editing it in one of my tabs. It will be done later tomorrow
- So how’s that Eromanga stuff going for you? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:59, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I finished it.--Bubblesorg (talk) 05:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- I’m not too sure OzFossils will be considered a reliable source, and whenever I try to scroll down the page reloads, so you should probably find a different source. Try going on Google Scholar, and proof-read what you write, there were a lot of grammatical errors and typos going on User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 13:22, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Could you change it.But what do you think of it so far.--Bubblesorg (talk) 16:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Could you find something on those 4 islands? Make sure to use reliable source this time, and replace the ones I’ve mentioned already User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 17:51, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey I just want to say I'm really sorry that even though I agreed to help I haven't really contributed anything yet. I've been quite swamped with non-wiki stuff the past few weeks and I may not get a good break for a while. Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 05:50, 2 July 2018 (UTC) Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 05:50, 2 July 2018 (UTC) Ok i am back and dunkleosteus 777 i will give you the source for the map lets get back to work.
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