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Next step: C-class Article Improvement Drive
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With all the start-class articles pushed to C outside of a few lists we're still figuring out, we're moving onward and going to try and bring those C-class articles to B or higher! While this may seem daunting, consider the fact that we're almost halfway there as is. Reaching there, by the end of the year, is entirely tangible if we work together!
So to that end, Cukie has set up a list of all the C-class articles by game here: User:Cukie Gherkin/B drive
We can use this section here to develop ideas on how to approach the articles, consider any that may be worth merging, or sources that may help across the board in certain genres. We pulled off something pretty major with the previous articles: I don't think in the history of the VG project as a whole has there been no Start-class character articles overall. If that doesn't fill you with pride I don't know what will. Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- At some point in the future, I'd be willing to work with someone to improve Aloy. It's been on my to do list for awhile. -- ZooBlazer 19:46, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Two thoughts:
- I'm going to take a shot at Kim Kitsuragi.
- Lord British and Avatar (Ultima) don't really have meaningful reception. I say that having looked for it, as a fan of the series.
- Shooterwalker (talk) 19:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I know, unfortunately there's been a mixed issue with Lord British where people have been uncertain where to merge it, and trying to brute force the Ultima Online incident as making him notable.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- The good news is there are 300 other character articles to work on. When there is no consensus, sometimes editing (or the lack thereof) allows a consensus to form. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's what I'm thinking. At some point people will have to look at the quality gap and go "why can't this improve farther"?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- The good news is there are 300 other character articles to work on. When there is no consensus, sometimes editing (or the lack thereof) allows a consensus to form. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- I know, unfortunately there's been a mixed issue with Lord British where people have been uncertain where to merge it, and trying to brute force the Ultima Online incident as making him notable.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Two things: y'all might want to pin this discussion so it doesn't get archived, and for motivation's sake you should note how many C-class articles there were at the start of this drive (currently, there's 280 C-class). Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 22:53, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- A little over a month later, y'all are now at 261 C-class articles. SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- We are now down to 254. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- And now at 190 GA, 250 B, and 230 C. No change in the number of FAs, though, which y'all should consider eventually. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll be completely honest, I don't feel FAs are going to be a big or mainstream thing with character articles and will likely not be worth the stress for most of them.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:59, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Given the number of articles we still have to improve at this point, we're likely better off working on improving what's there instead of stressing ourselves with the intense scrutiny of making FAs. FAs tend to be way harder to do and have way longer processes. There's not much benefit, if I'm being honest. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see many characters necessarily having the material for a FA to be possible. Maybe having all Top-importance character articles at FA (since probably all of them have high-quality sourcing available) would be a long-term goal to consider? Easier said than done though. λ NegativeMP1 20:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update: We are currently at 231 C-Class articles, meaning the number somehow went up by one. Probably a BLAR being reverted. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Probably better to let updates be a monthly thing, but a better suggestion would be how do we start chipping down those numbers? I feel like there's definitely a point where a lot of C-class articles are definitely those people just don't want to touch. In my case I just made one, but I know I'll get it to B. But isolating which of the older ones can be improved enough to B would be the safest route.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 14:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- And now at 190 GA, 250 B, and 230 C. No change in the number of FAs, though, which y'all should consider eventually. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- We are now down to 254. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- A little over a month later, y'all are now at 261 C-class articles. SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
(Outdenting) June update: 220 C-class, 271 B-class, and 199 GAs. The number of C-class has decreased over time. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 02:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- July update (sorry I'm late!): 217 C-class, 269 B-class, and 210 GAs. The number of C-class has been hovering around that number for close to two months now. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 03:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- As of halfway through September, we are at 198 C-Class, 295 B-Class, and 215 GAs. The number of FAs has also increased from 9 to 10. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- End of November update: We are at 190 C-Class, 317 B-Class, 221 GAs, and 12 FAs. Great work everyone! QuicoleJR (talk) 23:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- February 2025 update: 160 C-Class, 302 B-Class, 228 GAs, and 13 FAs. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:53, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Mid-April update: 167 C-Class, 303 B-Class, 234 GAs, and 15 FAs. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- July update: 175 C-class, 317 B-class, 249 GAs, and 15 FAs. The overall number of articles is going up slightly faster than the rate of overall improvement. There's also 119 Lists and 7 FLs, and at some point yall might consider checking the notability of all the lists with the same scrupulosity yall did all the characters. Kudos and happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:08, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Mid-April update: 167 C-Class, 303 B-Class, 234 GAs, and 15 FAs. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- February 2025 update: 160 C-Class, 302 B-Class, 228 GAs, and 13 FAs. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:53, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- End of November update: We are at 190 C-Class, 317 B-Class, 221 GAs, and 12 FAs. Great work everyone! QuicoleJR (talk) 23:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- As of halfway through September, we are at 198 C-Class, 295 B-Class, and 215 GAs. The number of FAs has also increased from 9 to 10. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Cukie Gherkin (talk) 13:55, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
So given the C-class articles are a bit harder to bulk up, some of which going to require complete rewrites, at Cukie's suggestion the goal has been refined to aim for less than 150 C-class article for the time being. This makes the overall goal feel less daunting, and honestly there's a good chance that we will never reach absolutely 0 C-class articles. Concerns also arose too that an absolute zero threshold may disaude editors from trying to do character articles.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
2026 March update: 16 FA, 283 GA, 357 B, & 183 C- for a total of 839 character articles; the number has gone back to increasing overall and progress towards the goal of sub-150 C-articles has gone down. There's still 7 FLs but 98 Lists, a noticeable decrease. That all noted, the average quality of new characters articles lately has gone up, so keep up the good work (and good luck to those pursuing FAs/FLs!). Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 20:00, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's definitely fallen to the wayside as options for C-class improvement have dried up a bit. A lot of what is left either would require a lot of research or is of limited interest for much of the project. (I started playing Dragon Age in some small part to improve those articles) - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:21, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- I am in the early stages of potentially making a Horizon GT (kind of dreading the franchise article though). My main focus currently is finishing up getting the main 2 games promoted/prepped for FA. Then I'll do a small part of this drive with Aloy likely being the first article I focus on after. So that will be a whole ones less C-class character article! -- ZooBlazer 20:34, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
Recognized content
I set up a recognized content page for anyone interested. It should be filled in next week once the bot runs again. Figured there should be a page separate from the main video game recognized content. -- ZooBlazer 22:07, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
Characters of Final Fantasy VIII at FAR
I have nominated Characters of Final Fantasy VIII for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria, or help improve the article. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regard to the article's featured status (see review instructions). 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:15, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
Adding IPAC-en's to various articles
This is something of a project I've been working on with Pokelego's help, but one thing to kinda make our articles more 'legit' has been to try and add IPA pronunciation guides and if possible an audio clip of the pronunciation. I feel this is a frequently discussed subject in gaming culture, and putting these up will be beneficial for our readers. Right now the following have gotten them:
- Every Pokemon article
- From Dead or Alive: Ayane (Dead or Alive)
- From Final Fantasy: Chocobo, Cyan Garamonde, Gau (Final Fantasy)
- From Guilty Gear: Baiken, I-No
- From Horizon: Aloy
- From Street Fighter: Chun-Li, Ryu (Street Fighter), Dhalsim, Zangief
- From Overwatch: Anran, Brigitte (Overwatch), D.Va, Genji (Overwatch), Kiriko (Overwatch), Lucio (Overwatch), Mei (Overwatch), Orisa (Overwatch), Pharah, Torbjorn (Overwatch)
- From Resident Evil: Lady Dimitrescu
Can you think of any others that may be worth consideration? Kung Fu Man (talk) 05:22, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I think it would be a good idea. It would definitely be beneficial as you said.
- This made me remember to finally add it to Aloy since I'm working on the article for eventual GA/FA.
If someone can add an audio clip, that would be great.-- ZooBlazer 05:59, 22 March 2026 (UTC)- I like the idea, but only if the pronunciation is not already obvious from how the character's name is spelled. For instance, I don't think it would have been really necessary to put one in for Mei (Overwatch) because the pronunciation is obvious to me as someone who does not play Overwatch. However, for subjects whose names can get easily mispronounced I'm definitely on board and have already added them, e.g. Mavuika. Gommeh (talk! sign!) 15:22, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah Mei I figured might be, but then it occurred to me there might be that one person that thinks it's pronounced like "My". Sometimes the obvious pronunciation isn't so obvious (like Baiken; the SamSho game she's in calls her "Bacon").--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:38, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I like the idea, but only if the pronunciation is not already obvious from how the character's name is spelled. For instance, I don't think it would have been really necessary to put one in for Mei (Overwatch) because the pronunciation is obvious to me as someone who does not play Overwatch. However, for subjects whose names can get easily mispronounced I'm definitely on board and have already added them, e.g. Mavuika. Gommeh (talk! sign!) 15:22, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
