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"Resident Evil is among the highest-grossing horror franchises."
What beats it? The linked article shows no horror franchise above it. The MonsterVerse are not horror movies, and this article previously stated that the franchise IS the highest grossing, which is true. 216.121.182.128 (talk) 05:58, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- According to a note an editor left when they changed it, the list includes The Conjuring Universe, which grossed more money than the RE franchise. I personally think the $600m figure quotes is way out of date (from 2001). We will need to find a better source that meets WP:VG/S. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 12:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Side note, I'd need to dig into it, but at least one published source points gross sales to $9B -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 13:01, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Looking more into this, the Conjuring Universe article lists it as the highest selling horror franchise, but then links to a page about the highest grossing horror FILMS specifically,not including other media (video games in this case) and cites 2.2 billion for the franchise.
- Agreed that this could use some updated numbers to make things clearer! 216.121.182.128 (talk) 06:07, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think the $9 billion figure comes from this Fandom Wiki
- The author of that article probably got the info there.
- Which basically makes it unusable since Fadom Wiki's should not be used. Timur9008 (talk) 14:59, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
Split
I suggest splitting this article into two. One for the media franchise and keep this for the game series bc it's so confusing and also most readers come to read about the game not about the media franchise which no one cares about. Alikhamahu (talk) 14:41, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support split per nomination. I have no objections really.
- @StarScream1007 what do you think? Timur9008 (talk) 14:52, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- There are other FA-tier articles like Final Fantasy, God of War (franchise), and Sonic the Hedgehog that include both the games and and media franchise in their Franchise articles. There is also a List of Resident Evil media and Resident Evil (film series) articles too, which further expand upon the content in this article. I would say it's worth keeping mention of the non-gaming media here. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 15:25, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- You make a good point. Wonder what others think. Timur9008 (talk) 16:46, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. When we split it, we should briefly mention the non gaming media in the game article and refer to the franchise article for full coverage. But the game article should focus on the game. Alikhamahu (talk) 16:54, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- First, we need to ask ourselves whether the amount of media associated with the franchise is large enough to warrant separating the templates. How other articles have done, or guessing what people are thinking when they look for RE in a project isn't exactly the best way to demonstrate this. Solaire the knight (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting take. Then, do you think this article should be dedicated to the game and do you think that we should not dedicate an article for the franchise but briefly mention the franchise in this article instead? Alikhamahu (talk) 19:10, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- There are other FA-tier articles like Final Fantasy, God of War (franchise), and Sonic the Hedgehog that include both the games and and media franchise in their Franchise articles. There is also a List of Resident Evil media and Resident Evil (film series) articles too, which further expand upon the content in this article. I would say it's worth keeping mention of the non-gaming media here. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 15:25, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. First of all, this article is at an entirely reasonable length. If a split would occur, we would be left with two articles on the smaller side. Second, this one franchise would have Resident Evil (franchise), Resident Evil (video game series), Resident Evil (film series), List of Resident Evil media, etc. etc. I think this would make things more, not less, confusing. Third, I cannot think of another video game franchise whose wikipedia page is split in such a way. Fourth, the video game series is the franchise; the nominator's position that "the media franchise no one cares about" is indicative of this being some sort of personal preference and not based on wikipedia policy. Yeoutie (talk) 14:29, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support The rationale makes no sense and uses an WP:IDONTLIKEIT-type argument, but the Resident Evil franchise is big enough at this point - one of the largest franchises in gaming - to justify a separate page, a la Pokémon and Pokémon (video game series). Splitting it would clarify the importance of the overall franchise rather than the lack of it - currently, the other media is relegated to second fiddle to the video games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. I feel like it's pretty easy to understand and follow the article as-is and splitting them would introduce extra confusion. ⊂ Andyzweb ⊃ (Talk) 03:09, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The article is of very reasonable length without the need for a split and the rationale is not exactly convincing. λ NegativeMP1 18:17, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Just taking a quick read through, I see no issue with the length as the first %50 of the article is covering the games and the other %50 covering non-video game media, reception and cultural impact. Also I find the noms argument that "no one cares about the media franchise" is ridiculous and basically falls under "I don't like it" thinking than a actual valid argument for the split. TheDeviantPro (talk) 03:03, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The game universe features anime and manga as part of the canon. Adapations sometime use game characters even if they aren´t part of the Capcom "canon" and the IP regularly licenses out characters and monsters for use in other games. The "media franchise which no one cares about", specifically the 6 PAW films, made over a billion and there was a bidding war for the rights to the 2026 film. The very first RE comic was made in 1996. Capcom cares very much about RE being a mixed media IP. Residentgrigo (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:41, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
Logo visibility issue in dark mode
I've noticed that the current franchise logo doesn't adapt well to dark mode. Since the logo stays in its original colours and doesn't switch to a white or light version, it becomes difficult to see against dark backgrounds. This might affect readability and accessibility for users who browse in dark mode. ~2025-34319-84 (talk) 12:58, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- Update: Outdated. Fixed. ~2025-34319-84 (talk) 13:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
Should Zero and CV be bolded in the release timeline?
I think we should properly re-discuss this as it keeps getting edited back and forth. It looks like there was a discussion around 2023 that concluded that they should both be considered core entries, citing similar gameplay, similar development scope, and relevance to the core plot. That discussion can be viewed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Resident_Evil/Archive_1#h-Zero_and_CV,_mainline_or_spin-off?-2021-04-25T01:34:00.000Z ; However, recently Requiem's marketing refers to itself as the "9th major entry" in the franchise, which some feel negates their status as a core entry and thus should not receive bolding.
I believe they should remain bolded. Firstly, Capcom referring to Requiem as the "9th major entry" aligns with its branding as RE9. This is not necessarily an explicit statement that Zero and CV should no longer be considered mainline. I don't believe this is enough to overturn the past consensus.
More importantly, Capcom themselves have listed both Zero and CV alongside the other mainline games at the Great Capcom Exhibition's "Series Family Tree" exhibit. A photo of that can be viewed here: https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/2002946133556080669/photo/1 ; The exhibit shows the mainline (including Zero and CV), remake line, and revelations listed as a distinct sub-series. Other spin-offs have been left out entirely. While this image is not a secondary source suitable for citation in the article, it does show how Capcom visually groups the series.
With those points in mind, I believe we should revert to the previous formatting, but I'd like to hear what others think. Tailacoster (talk) 03:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure why we should ignore one of their statements in favor of the other, especially when the statement about Requiem's position is more direct and included in both the press release and the game's official synopsis. We can also say that the absence of other games in the series in the photo doesn't mean they're excluded, or that Capcom's lack of direct comment on this illustration prevents us from drawing any definitive conclusions. Roughly speaking, the illustration doesn't really distinguish between the main series and spin-offs, just the original games, Revelations, and Remakes. Although, overall, I'm not against highlighting all major releases as a compromise, if there's consensus for it. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:09, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with the compromise. Capcom's definition of a 'mainline' entry has been inconsistent since 1999. The transition from numbering games to using titles was largely driven by marketing and politics between Sony and Capcom. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 21:57, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Indeed. Moreover, at the moment, the list doesn't specify which works are bolded, so we can simply underline all major or big projects and add a note to that effect to avoid further debates. Solaire the knight (talk) 23:32, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I think that would be a great compromise. And the clarification note would be great as well. Having all major projects highlighted above others greatly improves the readability of the list for the average viewer, and allows newcomers to better distinguish the games that are more central to the franchise vs smaller spin offs. Tailacoster (talk) 03:26, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- In that case, I suggest highlighting all major games, including remakes and except multiplayer games or clearly sidelined titles like Outbreak and Revelation, and in the end adding a footnote like "major games in bold" to avoid further debate about which games belong in the mainline. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:11, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with your proposal. If I understand correctly, this would include all the numbered titles, Village, Requiem, Code: Veronica, and then remakes 1 through 4? Tailacoster (talk) 01:34, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, all major (or big) releases, to avoid further debate about which games are "mainline." Solaire the knight (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Done. I’ve updated the timeline to bold all major releases and added a note at the top for clarity. Thank you guys for the discussion! Tailacoster (talk) 22:23, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yep, that's right! Thank you for your cooperation! Solaire the knight (talk) 22:36, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Looks good. Thanks all. StarScream1007 ►Talk 22:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Judging from the picture posted, it's pretty clear Capcom puts the two Revelations games on an equal footing with the four Remakes, as both of them have their own column, and does not treat them as "clearly sidelined games" like the Outbreak games, since those aren't even in the picture. Therefore, if we are going to put the four Remakes in bold in the timeline, I think out of consistency it makes sense to include the two Revelations as well. I'm going to make the change if no one is opposed to it.--Johnn Francis (talk) 17:57, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- In this case, 90% of the list would consist of bold titles, which is already excessive. As you noted earlier, we highlight major releases, not the mainline. And as I mentioned above, we don't know what Capcom's intentions were behind this. Perhaps they simply spun them off into a separate sub-series. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:05, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Wow, quick reply! I don't agree that "90% of the list would consist of bold titles"; as a matter of fact, only 17 of the 30 games listed are, that's barely over 50%. And you're right, we don't know what's in Capcom's head, so until we do, I think it makes more sense to base ourselves on tangible evidence, in this case the picture provided by Tailacoster.--Johnn Francis (talk) 18:11, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- I did respond quickly, but you stopped waiting even faster. I don't agree: the fact that we don't know Capcom's intentions works both ways, not in favor of one option or another. Of course, the 90% figure was hyperbole, but I'm afraid that if we highlight Revelations, then we'll effectively highlighting most of the games (The series is relatively large, but with your suggestions, more than half of the list will already be bolded), with the exception of just two that aren't multiplayer or ports/enhanced versions. What's the point of highlighting them then? It's easier not to highlight anything at all. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:19, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry, I can get impatient sometimes. The thing is what matters to me is consistency: I'm fine with either marking none of the Remakes and none of the Revelations in bold, or marking all of them in bold, but only marking one and not the other seems to me to be incoherent, judging from the (little) evidence we have, namely the aforementioned picture. And again, since we don't know Capcom's intentions, we have no other choice than to base ourselves on the available evidence, not matter how flimsy it is. This is not "favoring one option or another", this is, on the contrary, taking the evidence as is without interpreting it. As for the "more than half of the list will already be bolded", I wouldn't worry too much about that. I'm pretty certain this won't last forever, as Capcom will more than likely release additional spin-offs in the coming years. By the way, what games are you referring to when you wrote "with the exception of just two that aren't multiplayer or ports/enhanced versions."? I'm a bit confused, here. As for your last sentence "It's easier not to highlight anything at all.", maybe that's the way to go. I'm not being sarcastic here, maybe we ARE actually putting too much effort into something that is, in the grand scheme of things, a bit trivial and not particularly relevant--Johnn Francis (talk) 18:31, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- To avoid reigniting last year's dispute, I asked one of the game's portal administrators to review this issue. I will support any decision they make to avoid a new round of debates. But getting back to the topic, I don't think we actually have a source that directly states "Capcom emphasizes this games equally with the remakes/main games." The main source of this is still a fan photo of their event stage, where they simply listed them as an additional sister duology of games. But if you agree that the very fact of highlighting games is debatable, then I'm willing to support that, although the rest will still depend on the opinions of the administrator and other participants in the discussion. I won't insist and will simply abide by the consensus, because frankly, I'm a little burnt out. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:39, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, I think it's a smart move on your part. I guess we'll have to wait for what they have to say, then. I'd also like to hear about Tailacoster and StarScream1007's opinions, since they've already taken part in this conversation. By the way, I'm not trying to "escalate" anything, like I said, I can get a bit impatient sometimes, but please don't mistake that for bad faith on my part. And yes, I hear you, arguing with other Wikipedia users can be exhausting, that's why I generally tend to avoid it as much as I can :-)--Johnn Francis (talk) 18:46, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- No, you misunderstood. I'm not accusing you of escalating the situation. I'm rather afraid that I'll get too carried away in the argument myself :). So I just wanted to point out that although I have my own view on the matter, I am still willing to accept the decision that others choose if they don't agree with my option. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- I think there's a few important things we need to consider here.
- Firstly, what is the purpose of bolding titles in the release timeline? I think not bolding any at all, while easier, would significantly decrease the quality and readability of the list. I myself found it very useful when I got into the series (just a few years ago!). It helped me easily grasp all the releases as a newcomer, and easily distinguish the important, (then "mainline") games from spin offs.
- Secondly, we need to acknowledge that Capcom does not have an officially stated "mainline" that we can easily point to in order to make a quick, definitive decision. There is conflicting evidence from Capcom themselves that we discussed earlier: namely the chart I provided and their own statement about Requiem being the "9th main installment" of the series.
- Therefore, in the absence of a definitive mainline to base our decision off of, the exact criteria that we decide upon for what should or should not be bolded is up to us, and whatever we feel is right. And we can always update the note above the release timeline to reflect that.
- In my opinion, I think it should either be the way we have it now (RE 0-9, CV and remakes) OR those same titles, just without the remakes. I think we should be consistent and not bold any spin offs or sub-series. Regarding the chart I provided, I don't think the absence of other spin-offs is enough to say we must bold Revelations, or consider it the same level of importance as the other listed major releases. There is recency bias, as well as the fact that these are the largest scoped spin-offs they have ever created, that could have factored into them adding it to the chart.
- Regarding the Remakes, I think it could go either way. To me, it makes sense to either bold or not bold them. Since they are recreating other core, major releases, it makes sense to bold them, especially if our criteria is to bold all "major releases". So I would lean towards that. But if we wanted to only bold the original major releases, that makes sense to me too.
- At it's core, given the number of spin-offs, I believe we should use the bolding to help others distinguish the major, central releases of the franchise from all others. I think either of my above recommendations are the best way to do that. Tailacoster (talk) 01:33, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for tuning in and for your long and detailed reply. I don't have much to add, except than to repeat what I have already said: namely than in the interest of consistency, and in the light of the evidence we have (yes, again, I know it's not super solid evidence, but it's pretty much the only thing we've got, save for Capcom stating that Requiem is the "9th main installment", but if we were to go by that latest statement, it would automatically exclude CV and Zero), we should either bold both the Remakes and the Revelations, or neither of them. Since you seem to be okay with bolding neither of them, and Solaire the knight said they wouldn't oppose the decision reached by consensus, I would suggest we go with that latter option, especially since "de-bolding" the Remakes wouldn't make the list harder to read: the Remakes already stand out due to the fact that they have the word "(Remake)" written next to them.--Johnn Francis (talk) 02:18, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- No, you misunderstood. I'm not accusing you of escalating the situation. I'm rather afraid that I'll get too carried away in the argument myself :). So I just wanted to point out that although I have my own view on the matter, I am still willing to accept the decision that others choose if they don't agree with my option. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, I think it's a smart move on your part. I guess we'll have to wait for what they have to say, then. I'd also like to hear about Tailacoster and StarScream1007's opinions, since they've already taken part in this conversation. By the way, I'm not trying to "escalate" anything, like I said, I can get a bit impatient sometimes, but please don't mistake that for bad faith on my part. And yes, I hear you, arguing with other Wikipedia users can be exhausting, that's why I generally tend to avoid it as much as I can :-)--Johnn Francis (talk) 18:46, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- To avoid reigniting last year's dispute, I asked one of the game's portal administrators to review this issue. I will support any decision they make to avoid a new round of debates. But getting back to the topic, I don't think we actually have a source that directly states "Capcom emphasizes this games equally with the remakes/main games." The main source of this is still a fan photo of their event stage, where they simply listed them as an additional sister duology of games. But if you agree that the very fact of highlighting games is debatable, then I'm willing to support that, although the rest will still depend on the opinions of the administrator and other participants in the discussion. I won't insist and will simply abide by the consensus, because frankly, I'm a little burnt out. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:39, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry, I can get impatient sometimes. The thing is what matters to me is consistency: I'm fine with either marking none of the Remakes and none of the Revelations in bold, or marking all of them in bold, but only marking one and not the other seems to me to be incoherent, judging from the (little) evidence we have, namely the aforementioned picture. And again, since we don't know Capcom's intentions, we have no other choice than to base ourselves on the available evidence, not matter how flimsy it is. This is not "favoring one option or another", this is, on the contrary, taking the evidence as is without interpreting it. As for the "more than half of the list will already be bolded", I wouldn't worry too much about that. I'm pretty certain this won't last forever, as Capcom will more than likely release additional spin-offs in the coming years. By the way, what games are you referring to when you wrote "with the exception of just two that aren't multiplayer or ports/enhanced versions."? I'm a bit confused, here. As for your last sentence "It's easier not to highlight anything at all.", maybe that's the way to go. I'm not being sarcastic here, maybe we ARE actually putting too much effort into something that is, in the grand scheme of things, a bit trivial and not particularly relevant--Johnn Francis (talk) 18:31, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- I did respond quickly, but you stopped waiting even faster. I don't agree: the fact that we don't know Capcom's intentions works both ways, not in favor of one option or another. Of course, the 90% figure was hyperbole, but I'm afraid that if we highlight Revelations, then we'll effectively highlighting most of the games (The series is relatively large, but with your suggestions, more than half of the list will already be bolded), with the exception of just two that aren't multiplayer or ports/enhanced versions. What's the point of highlighting them then? It's easier not to highlight anything at all. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:19, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Wow, quick reply! I don't agree that "90% of the list would consist of bold titles"; as a matter of fact, only 17 of the 30 games listed are, that's barely over 50%. And you're right, we don't know what's in Capcom's head, so until we do, I think it makes more sense to base ourselves on tangible evidence, in this case the picture provided by Tailacoster.--Johnn Francis (talk) 18:11, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- In this case, 90% of the list would consist of bold titles, which is already excessive. As you noted earlier, we highlight major releases, not the mainline. And as I mentioned above, we don't know what Capcom's intentions were behind this. Perhaps they simply spun them off into a separate sub-series. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:05, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Judging from the picture posted, it's pretty clear Capcom puts the two Revelations games on an equal footing with the four Remakes, as both of them have their own column, and does not treat them as "clearly sidelined games" like the Outbreak games, since those aren't even in the picture. Therefore, if we are going to put the four Remakes in bold in the timeline, I think out of consistency it makes sense to include the two Revelations as well. I'm going to make the change if no one is opposed to it.--Johnn Francis (talk) 17:57, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- Looks good. Thanks all. StarScream1007 ►Talk 22:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yep, that's right! Thank you for your cooperation! Solaire the knight (talk) 22:36, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Done. I’ve updated the timeline to bold all major releases and added a note at the top for clarity. Thank you guys for the discussion! Tailacoster (talk) 22:23, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, all major (or big) releases, to avoid further debate about which games are "mainline." Solaire the knight (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with your proposal. If I understand correctly, this would include all the numbered titles, Village, Requiem, Code: Veronica, and then remakes 1 through 4? Tailacoster (talk) 01:34, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- In that case, I suggest highlighting all major games, including remakes and except multiplayer games or clearly sidelined titles like Outbreak and Revelation, and in the end adding a footnote like "major games in bold" to avoid further debate about which games belong in the mainline. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:11, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- I think that would be a great compromise. And the clarification note would be great as well. Having all major projects highlighted above others greatly improves the readability of the list for the average viewer, and allows newcomers to better distinguish the games that are more central to the franchise vs smaller spin offs. Tailacoster (talk) 03:26, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- Indeed. Moreover, at the moment, the list doesn't specify which works are bolded, so we can simply underline all major or big projects and add a note to that effect to avoid further debates. Solaire the knight (talk) 23:32, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with the compromise. Capcom's definition of a 'mainline' entry has been inconsistent since 1999. The transition from numbering games to using titles was largely driven by marketing and politics between Sony and Capcom. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 21:57, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Continuation
I created a subsection so that the threads wouldn't slide sideways. The main contradiction this creates is that the remakes themselves are truly major releases and even the most hyped and biggest AAA projects in the series to date, outside of the numbered installments. So I would suggest either highlighting them individually in a lighter font, or highlighting them together with Revelation in a lighter font. Alternatively, we could avoid highlighting them together, adding that major releases that aren't expansions or remakes of other games are highlighted. That would be a bit heavy-handed, but it might help establish a criterion. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:57, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm okay with your second and third options. Your first option, though, would still keep the distinction between the Remakes on the one hand and the Revelations on the other, which was the very reason I re-started this entire conversation (sorry about that! :-)), and like I said, it wouldn't do much to improve the readability of the list, as the Remakes already stand out. Your second and third options, on the other hand, clearly set the "mainline series", for lack of a better term (i.e. the numbered games plus CV and Zero), apart from the rest, while acknowledging that the Remakes and the Revelations are "above" the rest of the games (i.e. the Outbreaks, the Survivors and so on). I would personally favour the third option, since it's the one that you, Tailacoster and I all seem to agree upon, and, like you said, it's at least based on a somewhat objective criterion. We'll just have to make sure to phrase the footnote in a way that is not too "heavy-handed" as you put it.--Johnn Francis (talk) 17:57, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Ideally, we could use different font colors, but as far as I understand, this doesn't fit with Wikipedia's overall style. In that case, the only options are either not to highlight the font at all, or to choose a complex yet clear criterion. Overall, I personally would avoid "mainline games" as a criterion, as we can see from previous discussions that it's an overly vague term that provokes debate due to differing understandings of what it means. "Major" seems preferable, as it's a more general term. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:31, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, let's keep using the word "major" as we currently do, but let's not highlight the Remakes, and let's find a clear and not too wordy criterion for why the bolded titles are bolded. I suggest we replace "Major releases in bold" with "Major original releases in bold". If you have another, better suggestion, I'm all ears.--Johnn Francis (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I am okay with your suggestion. For some reason it sounds a bit off to me, but after thinking it over I can't think of any better way to word it. Tailacoster (talk) 04:56, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- We could use "major original releases in bold" and highlight remakes in lighter bold as major releases that are still based on previous games. UPD. Also, if we reach consensus on this, I suggest we also use it for the series template (with a similar little note), as it seems to be a regular target of low-intensity edit wars due to a similar lack of criteria. Solaire the knight (talk) 08:16, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Not trying to be a pain, but I'm still not convinced we need to highlight Remakes in "lighter bold" (I don't even know if that's a thing); I mean, it's pretty obvious they are based on previous games judging from their respective titles and the fact that they have the word "Remake" written plainly next to them. Regardless of what we choose though, I do agree with you that the template should follow the same pattern as the main article. On a side note: what's UPD?--Johnn Francis (talk) 13:14, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- UPD is short for "UPDATE". This is how text updates are marked in chats. I just think remakes need some kind of version, as they're some of Resident Evil or Capcom's biggest releases in recent years. Choosing major releases over "mainline" helps avoid debates about the official chronology, but it also raises the question of why we deny undeniably major games this status. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:37, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Well if we phrase it "Major original releases in bold" as I've previously suggested, we're not denying the Remakes the status of major games, we're just acknowledging the fact that they're not original games. I still think putting the Remakes in lighter bold (and yes, I double checked, apparently, it IS a thing) is superfluous, but if you really insist on doing it, I think I'll go along with it. After all, this is what consensus means: everybody has to give in a little bit at some point :-). (Thanks for your reply on the meaning of UPD, by the way. By why did you change it to APD?)
- UPD (lol, see what I did there?): I've just been thinking, if we ever decide to go along with highlighting the Remakes in lighter bold, what I suggest we do is to add a second footnote below "Major original releases in bold", something along the lines of "Remakes in lighter bold" (but maybe you could re-phrase it in a better way), to make it explicit what the lighter bold means, and then remove the words "(Remake)" next to the games in question within the list proper, because these would then become redundant. I think this would make the reading of the list easier and, dare I say, more "aesthetically pleasing". What do you think?--Johnn Francis (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- After your reply, I thought I had written the UPD incorrectly, but only later realized that you had misunderstood the reference itself. I think this option is suitable. It seems we both agree on the "major original games" option, so the remake issue could be resolved with a mini-vote or simply a lighter tone as a compromise, if no one objects. Solaire the knight (talk) 16:31, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Like I said, I personally don't object to that option, even if it wasn't my original choice. Maybe we should wait a little bit to see what other participants might have to say about it. If nobody manifests themselves, I think we should interpet it as tacit agreement to finally go on and make the change.--Johnn Francis (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- No problem. We're in no rush, and I've signed up for notifications, so we can wait as long as it takes. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- I've just realized something. That whole "lighter bold" thing only works as long as the text in question isn't made into a link. If it is made into a link, then whether it's in regular bold or in lighter bold doesn't make any difference: the text will appear with the exact same shade of blue. And the problem is that all of the titles within the limeline are links. I've just made the experiment myself to be sure. This does seem to render this option obsolete. Are we seriously back to square one?--Johnn Francis (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Let's wait for the opinion of other participants in the discussion or the administrator I invited; perhaps they will agree to accept this option as part of a compromise. Solaire the knight (talk) 21:11, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think you've understood what I meant: this option seems to be unapplicable after all. Let me show you visually.
Release timeline Major releases in bold/Remakes in lighter bold1996 Resident Evil 1997 1998 Resident Evil 2 1999 Resident Evil 3: Nemesis 2000 Resident Evil Survivor Resident Evil – Code: Veronica 2001 Resident Evil Survivor 2 – Code: Veronica Resident Evil Gaiden 2002 Resident Evil Resident Evil Zero 2003 Resident Evil: Dead Aim Resident Evil Outbreak 2004 Resident Evil Outbreak: File #2 2005 Resident Evil 4 2006 2007 Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 2008 2009 Resident Evil 5 Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles 2010 2011 Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D 2012 Resident Evil: Revelations Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City Resident Evil 6 2013 2014 2015 Resident Evil: Revelations 2 2016 Umbrella Corps 2017 Resident Evil 7: Biohazard 2018 2019 Resident Evil 2 2020 Resident Evil 3 Resident Evil: Resistance 2021 Resident Evil Village 2022 Resident Evil Re:Verse 2023 Resident Evil 4 2024 2025 2026 Resident Evil Requiem - See? The "lighter bold" at the top is clearly visually different from the regular "bold", but within the timeline itself there is no difference because they all appear with the same shade of blue, since they are all links. This definitely puts this option out of the equation. I would then suggest we go back to my first proposition, namely (I'm gonna copy/paste myself here): "let's keep using the word "major" as we currently do, but let's not highlight the Remakes, and let's find a clear and not too wordy criterion for why the bolded titles are bolded. I suggest we replace "Major releases in bold" with "Major original releases in bold"". Tailacoster already said they were on board with this, and the admin you invited doesn't seem to be interested in making a final decision on the matter (besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that's actually their role. I think they are supposed to watch for vandalism and such, not arbitrate between participants who are attempting to reach a consensus). Not trying to impose myself or anything, but I really don't see any other option at this stage.--Johnn Francis (talk) 16:36, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- I understand what you're trying to say. I just wanted to say that I'm a little exhausted and would like to listen to other people to get some rest. But getting back to your question, if possible, we could highlight the major games in a bold tone, or reduce the standard font for regular games or highlight the word "remake" itself.Solaire the knight (talk) 18:54, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- Not really sure what you mean by "reduce the standard font". But yeah, let's wait for a few more days, and if nobody has a better option, I say we go with my proposal, since out of all those that have been suggested, this seems to be the one that has garnered the most support. Have a nice day.:-)--Johnn Francis (talk) 23:01, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- If you're talking about replacing "major releases in bold" with "major original releases in bold," I suggested that a few days ago as a "heavyweight but clearer criterion." But overall, we're really in no rush; this isn't a competition or a matter of figuring out who's right and who's wrong. Nothing will happen if we wait a couple of days before deciding what to do about it. Solaire the knight (talk) 03:18, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hello all. To be frank, I am having a hard time differentiating the bold from the lighter bold on the graphic on the proposed chart. I am not opposed to differentiating major release remakes from their original counterparts, but perhaps we can accomplish this with an asterisk or special character, like r ? StarScream1007 ►Talk 12:22, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- That's precisely my point. The two types of bold are completely indistinguishable within the timeline because the titles all appear with the exact same shade of blue, since they are all links. So this option is no longer a valid solution, and this is the reason I posted the chart, to demonstrate that it wasn't feasible. So the solution I ended up proposing, and which Tailacoster said they agreed with, was to bold only the ORIGINAL "major" games (i.e. RE 1 through 9 plus CV and Zero) and leave the Remakes unbolded. As for differentiating the Remakes from their original counterparts, we can simple leave the word Remake in parentheses next to them, as is already the case with the current chart in the article. So essentially, the result would look like this:
Release timeline Major original releases in bold1996 Resident Evil 1997 1998 Resident Evil 2 1999 Resident Evil 3: Nemesis 2000 Resident Evil Survivor Resident Evil – Code: Veronica 2001 Resident Evil Survivor 2 – Code: Veronica Resident Evil Gaiden 2002 Resident Evil (Remake) Resident Evil Zero 2003 Resident Evil: Dead Aim Resident Evil Outbreak 2004 Resident Evil Outbreak: File #2 2005 Resident Evil 4 2006 2007 Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 2008 2009 Resident Evil 5 Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles 2010 2011 Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D 2012 Resident Evil: Revelations Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City Resident Evil 6 2013 2014 2015 Resident Evil: Revelations 2 2016 Umbrella Corps 2017 Resident Evil 7: Biohazard 2018 2019 Resident Evil 2 (Remake) 2020 Resident Evil 3 (Remake) Resident Evil: Resistance 2021 Resident Evil Village 2022 Resident Evil Re:Verse 2023 Resident Evil 4 (Remake) 2024 2025 2026 Resident Evil Requiem - Basically, the only differences with the current chart are the addition of the word "original" at the top and the fact that the Remakes are no longer bolded. --Johnn Francis (talk) 23:22, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- I don't mean to be overly rude, but please don't try so hard to prove something. We're discussing options, not competing or trying to prove anything. No one is asking you to "defend" your position. Moreover, copying the entire template here again. I could suggest more prominently highlighting the word "remake" as an option, but overall, if no one objects today or tomorrow, I think we can approve the "original" games option as the main one for the category table and template. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
- No offence taken, don't worry;) I'm not actually trying to "prove" anything, I just wanted to make my proposition super clear, because StarScream1007 ►Talk seemed to have misunderstood what I was suggesting. Also, I don't mean to be rude either, but the point of trying to reach a consensus is so that, in the end, a decision is made. Otherwise we're just talking for the sake of talking, and it might be fun and all, but at the end of the day, it's just a waste of time. That being said, I acknowledge that posting the entire timeline on the talk page might not have been the best idea, but I saw no other way to clearly illustrate what I meant so as to "defend" my position (and yes, that's exactly what I'm doing, and so should everybody else because, again, that's the whole point of the exercise). I'm not actually opposed to your idea of highlighting the word "Remake" itself. However, I think that if we do, we should not do it in bold, because that would contradict the subtitle at the top of the chart saying that only "original games" are bolded. May I suggest instead simply putting the word in uppercase letters? I've modified the second timeline on the talk page here to give you a better idea (yeah, I'm not adding a third timeline, that would clutter the whole page). Don't know about you, but I think that's a good alternative. Cheers!--Johnn Francis (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not a huge fan of it in caps, it looks kind of weird formatting wise to me. How about if we used the lighter bold on the word remake since it's not a link, and keep it lower cased? Tailacoster (talk) 03:47, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- On second thought, I kinda agree with you on the caps looking weird. Let me try with your suggestion. So, what do you think? We could also leave the word "Remake" in grey without being bolded, or even use a different colour altogether, either with or without the bold, as suggested by Solaire the knight in one of their previous comments. They said this "doesn't fit with Wikipedia's overall style", but I'm not sure there's actually a rule against it.--Johnn Francis (talk) 04:55, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not a huge fan of it in caps, it looks kind of weird formatting wise to me. How about if we used the lighter bold on the word remake since it's not a link, and keep it lower cased? Tailacoster (talk) 03:47, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- No offence taken, don't worry;) I'm not actually trying to "prove" anything, I just wanted to make my proposition super clear, because StarScream1007 ►Talk seemed to have misunderstood what I was suggesting. Also, I don't mean to be rude either, but the point of trying to reach a consensus is so that, in the end, a decision is made. Otherwise we're just talking for the sake of talking, and it might be fun and all, but at the end of the day, it's just a waste of time. That being said, I acknowledge that posting the entire timeline on the talk page might not have been the best idea, but I saw no other way to clearly illustrate what I meant so as to "defend" my position (and yes, that's exactly what I'm doing, and so should everybody else because, again, that's the whole point of the exercise). I'm not actually opposed to your idea of highlighting the word "Remake" itself. However, I think that if we do, we should not do it in bold, because that would contradict the subtitle at the top of the chart saying that only "original games" are bolded. May I suggest instead simply putting the word in uppercase letters? I've modified the second timeline on the talk page here to give you a better idea (yeah, I'm not adding a third timeline, that would clutter the whole page). Don't know about you, but I think that's a good alternative. Cheers!--Johnn Francis (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
- I don't mean to be overly rude, but please don't try so hard to prove something. We're discussing options, not competing or trying to prove anything. No one is asking you to "defend" your position. Moreover, copying the entire template here again. I could suggest more prominently highlighting the word "remake" as an option, but overall, if no one objects today or tomorrow, I think we can approve the "original" games option as the main one for the category table and template. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hello all. To be frank, I am having a hard time differentiating the bold from the lighter bold on the graphic on the proposed chart. I am not opposed to differentiating major release remakes from their original counterparts, but perhaps we can accomplish this with an asterisk or special character, like r ? StarScream1007 ►Talk 12:22, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- If you're talking about replacing "major releases in bold" with "major original releases in bold," I suggested that a few days ago as a "heavyweight but clearer criterion." But overall, we're really in no rush; this isn't a competition or a matter of figuring out who's right and who's wrong. Nothing will happen if we wait a couple of days before deciding what to do about it. Solaire the knight (talk) 03:18, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Not really sure what you mean by "reduce the standard font". But yeah, let's wait for a few more days, and if nobody has a better option, I say we go with my proposal, since out of all those that have been suggested, this seems to be the one that has garnered the most support. Have a nice day.:-)--Johnn Francis (talk) 23:01, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- I understand what you're trying to say. I just wanted to say that I'm a little exhausted and would like to listen to other people to get some rest. But getting back to your question, if possible, we could highlight the major games in a bold tone, or reduce the standard font for regular games or highlight the word "remake" itself.Solaire the knight (talk) 18:54, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
- I've just realized something. That whole "lighter bold" thing only works as long as the text in question isn't made into a link. If it is made into a link, then whether it's in regular bold or in lighter bold doesn't make any difference: the text will appear with the exact same shade of blue. And the problem is that all of the titles within the limeline are links. I've just made the experiment myself to be sure. This does seem to render this option obsolete. Are we seriously back to square one?--Johnn Francis (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- No problem. We're in no rush, and I've signed up for notifications, so we can wait as long as it takes. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Like I said, I personally don't object to that option, even if it wasn't my original choice. Maybe we should wait a little bit to see what other participants might have to say about it. If nobody manifests themselves, I think we should interpet it as tacit agreement to finally go on and make the change.--Johnn Francis (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- After your reply, I thought I had written the UPD incorrectly, but only later realized that you had misunderstood the reference itself. I think this option is suitable. It seems we both agree on the "major original games" option, so the remake issue could be resolved with a mini-vote or simply a lighter tone as a compromise, if no one objects. Solaire the knight (talk) 16:31, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- UPD is short for "UPDATE". This is how text updates are marked in chats. I just think remakes need some kind of version, as they're some of Resident Evil or Capcom's biggest releases in recent years. Choosing major releases over "mainline" helps avoid debates about the official chronology, but it also raises the question of why we deny undeniably major games this status. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:37, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Not trying to be a pain, but I'm still not convinced we need to highlight Remakes in "lighter bold" (I don't even know if that's a thing); I mean, it's pretty obvious they are based on previous games judging from their respective titles and the fact that they have the word "Remake" written plainly next to them. Regardless of what we choose though, I do agree with you that the template should follow the same pattern as the main article. On a side note: what's UPD?--Johnn Francis (talk) 13:14, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- We could use "major original releases in bold" and highlight remakes in lighter bold as major releases that are still based on previous games. UPD. Also, if we reach consensus on this, I suggest we also use it for the series template (with a similar little note), as it seems to be a regular target of low-intensity edit wars due to a similar lack of criteria. Solaire the knight (talk) 08:16, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- I am okay with your suggestion. For some reason it sounds a bit off to me, but after thinking it over I can't think of any better way to word it. Tailacoster (talk) 04:56, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, let's keep using the word "major" as we currently do, but let's not highlight the Remakes, and let's find a clear and not too wordy criterion for why the bolded titles are bolded. I suggest we replace "Major releases in bold" with "Major original releases in bold". If you have another, better suggestion, I'm all ears.--Johnn Francis (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Ideally, we could use different font colors, but as far as I understand, this doesn't fit with Wikipedia's overall style. In that case, the only options are either not to highlight the font at all, or to choose a complex yet clear criterion. Overall, I personally would avoid "mainline games" as a criterion, as we can see from previous discussions that it's an overly vague term that provokes debate due to differing understandings of what it means. "Major" seems preferable, as it's a more general term. Solaire the knight (talk) 19:31, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
Result
So, as I see it, we've finally settled on the "major original games" option and the exclusion of remakes. All that's left is to formalize it. Does everyone agree? Or are there still any objections or voices in favor of removing the bold font altogether, similar to the removal of the "mainline games" designation? Beyond that, the only remaining question is whether we should somehow further distinguish remakes, or whether we can establish some criteria and replicate them for the franchise template. Solaire the knight (talk) 11:36, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
- No further objections from me. About the template, I think it should follow the same pattern as the timeline, i.e. both the "Main" and "Major spin-offs" rows should be fused together into a single "Major original" row. Let's see what the others have to say about it.--Johnn Francis (talk) 01:31, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
- Initially, there was a division into sub-series like "remakes" and "revelations," but then someone lumped big spin-offs together as "major" ones. Maybe we should go back to that stage? Solaire the knight (talk) 07:50, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
- If you're talking about reverting back to the version immediately before the edit made by user MrWii000 on 27 February, 2026, then yes, that could work. The only thing is we should change "Main" to "Major" to keep it consistent with the article's timeline. In fact, like I said in my previous comment, it would be best to change it to "Major original", but I now realize that having just these two words with nothing afterwards looks a bit weird in the template, so maybe just "Main" is enough, the word "original" being implied by the fact that there is a "Remake" row right below.--Johnn Francis (talk) 00:09, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm talking about the option where instead of "major spin-offs" there were simply tabs for sub-series like "Revilations", "remakes", "outbreak", etc. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:59, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- Pretty sure we're talking about the same thing, here. Let me clear this up. The template should read like this: from top to bottom: "Major" (which would include Code: Veronica and Zero), "Remakes", "Revelations", "Outbreak", "Gun Survivor", "Chronicles", and "Other games". Now if we both agree and you have no further objections, I think we ought to proceed with the changes before the end of the weekend, since it's been over a week now.--Johnn Francis (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- The major ORIGINAL games*, but overall, yes, I personally don't see any reason to continue going in circles. I think you can make changes right now, just don't forget to add a link to this discussion as edit's description and then create a "result" section here to close the thread so the bots can archive it without any problems. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:52, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- The changes have been made. I'm afraid I don't know how to "create a result section" though, since this is the first time I've been asked to do this.:/ Care to help?--Johnn Francis (talk) 00:16, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
- I simply asked for a formal summary of the discussion. But as I see it now, that's pointless, since I already did it earlier. Solaire the knight (talk) 07:02, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
- The changes have been made. I'm afraid I don't know how to "create a result section" though, since this is the first time I've been asked to do this.:/ Care to help?--Johnn Francis (talk) 00:16, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
- The major ORIGINAL games*, but overall, yes, I personally don't see any reason to continue going in circles. I think you can make changes right now, just don't forget to add a link to this discussion as edit's description and then create a "result" section here to close the thread so the bots can archive it without any problems. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:52, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- Pretty sure we're talking about the same thing, here. Let me clear this up. The template should read like this: from top to bottom: "Major" (which would include Code: Veronica and Zero), "Remakes", "Revelations", "Outbreak", "Gun Survivor", "Chronicles", and "Other games". Now if we both agree and you have no further objections, I think we ought to proceed with the changes before the end of the weekend, since it's been over a week now.--Johnn Francis (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm talking about the option where instead of "major spin-offs" there were simply tabs for sub-series like "Revilations", "remakes", "outbreak", etc. Solaire the knight (talk) 05:59, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- If you're talking about reverting back to the version immediately before the edit made by user MrWii000 on 27 February, 2026, then yes, that could work. The only thing is we should change "Main" to "Major" to keep it consistent with the article's timeline. In fact, like I said in my previous comment, it would be best to change it to "Major original", but I now realize that having just these two words with nothing afterwards looks a bit weird in the template, so maybe just "Main" is enough, the word "original" being implied by the fact that there is a "Remake" row right below.--Johnn Francis (talk) 00:09, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
- Initially, there was a division into sub-series like "remakes" and "revelations," but then someone lumped big spin-offs together as "major" ones. Maybe we should go back to that stage? Solaire the knight (talk) 07:50, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

