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Hi and thanks for your message. It should be possible to add references etc - there is no limit to the size of the page. What difficulties are you experiencing? Best --Kleinzach 22:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC) From Hokkaido, the north island of Japan, on the other side of the world!

OK. I've done that. --Kleinzach 09:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Primary headings

Is that you? I'm not sure what primary titles are. Can you give me links (in double square brackets)? --Kleinzach 10:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, assuming you are referring to Ferrero, I've tried to do what you want. Have I done the right thing? Sorry to hear about the video. Best. --Kleinzach 06:23, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Ballets

Thank you for starting this list. What do you think about listing the choreographer? Dkreisst (talk) 03:07, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Difficult to do the choreographer because there are so many of them. Which one would you like to mention, the first? You are welcome to improve the list as you deem appropriate. Thank you and greetings from the real Côte d'Azur, Cote d'Azur (talk) 07:23, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, one would have to list multiple ballets to the same music. Currently, though, the list includes the "year of the first performance." Does this mean performance as a musical piece or the first dance performance? If it refers to the performance of the dance, then there is already a default choreographer included. Was this your intention? Dkreisst (talk) 00:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
All the years mark the first performance as a ballet; some of the years are hyperlinked to the "List of ... ballet premieres." I would also like to differentiate between the ballet as a music form (e.g., Swan Lake) and the ballet that choreographers create to music by certain composers (e.g., Triptych). This is not difficult to do. Cote d'Azur (talk) 11:30, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

You have removed again the link from Template:Frederick Ashton‎ and List of ballets choreographed by Frederick Ashton‎ to an informative sentence about the short Ashton ballet La chatte métamorphosée en femme on Wikipedia. I am not aware that any of the reasons you have given for removing the link are valid within the rules of Wikipedia, and I am baffled as to why you are so keen to prevent readers from accessing this succinct information about the ballet.

As I have already reverted the links I think I am now unable to do that again (you have deleted three times on each). I would hope that either you change your mind about this, or that other users put them back.

On the question of edit summaries it would be really helpful to other editors now and in the future if you could provide a short summary before saving your changes to articles. Summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history and appear also in User contributions and Recent changes. Thank you. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 16:38, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I think that links, especially in ballet templates, should point to ballet articles, not to sentences in opera articles. This is confusing and, as I said before, such linking also discourages the creation of new ballet articles. Cote d'Azur (talk) 18:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Templates

I see that you have been overhauling some of the opera templates that I have created. When you add links to templates, please add the template to the pages that those links lead to.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:18, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thank you, Cote d'Azur (talk) 04:03, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey dude. I am still having to check up on your changes to the templates. I added {{Giuseppe Verdi}} and {{Georges Bizet}} to several pages following your recent edits. It would be great if I did not have to watch what you do to all the opera templates so closely.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Britten cantatas: unless there are many more, why not have them in the general Britten navbox, maintaining one instead of two? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

There are many "Cantatas templates", the "Britten cantatas" template is just one of them. It would be difficult to change all of them. Cote d'Azur (talk) 14:36, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles , beginning with additions to Lorenzo Ferrero and covering his operas including La Conquista, for lists of ballet premieres and characters, for updating lists such as the list of opera librettists, for composer navboxes such as {{Arthur Honegger}}, for gnomish cleanup work, for adding soundfiles to musical articles and for letting your contributions speak for you, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this completely unexpected award and its well-researched citation. Best regards, Cote d'Azur (talk) 12:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
The next thing I wanted to do was a composer navbox for Glazunov, - you did it! Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I saw your invitation and could not resist. Happy anniversary, Glazunov! Cote d'Azur (talk) 09:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1282 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again and greetings from Cote d'Azur (talk) 06:11, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Two years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, and thank you for remembering —Cote d'Azur (talk) 06:16, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
... and three ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:48, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you and best wishes from Cote d'Azur (talk) 11:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
It's great to watch you work on Leonard Bernstein today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the support with his template and Happy 100th Birthday, Leonard Bernstein! —Cote d'Azur (talk) 12:38, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
I must be blind, can't find a year of his lead image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
1977, they say —Cote d'Azur (talk) 15:26, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. Should that go to pic info and his article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
No, I don't think so... —Cote d'Azur (talk) 15:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
What do you think about a bit more encyclopedic voice in Chichester Psalms? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
It looks good so far. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 07:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to see the tag go. - More than 150k views for the composer, not bad ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
... and four ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you and greetings to Idstein. Cote d'Azur (talk) 06:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! On the Main page, a little piece we sing there, A Clare Benediction, - a great one to come, we call it Marienvesper. I nominated it for GA, but the music section would still profit from expansion. Want to help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
I will have a look...Cote d'Azur (talk) 06:32, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Compositions by year

Regarding this edit: correct me if I'm wrong here, but shouldn't this category correspond to the year the composition was completed rather than when it was first performed? For example, the ballet Cydalise et le Chèvre-pied was composed in 1915, but not premiered until 1923, after the conclusion of World War I. Though it makes perfect sense for it to be included in the category "1923 ballet premieres" (as it is), it seems highly illogical to me that it should be included in the category "1923 compositions" too, as this puts it eight years out of date. I've read many similar instances of pieces not receiving their premieres until decades after their completion, like Virgil Thomson's Symphony on a Hymn Tune (completed in 1928, not performed until 1945). And if this designation should apply to these extreme examples, should it not also apply to compositions whose premieres were made a single year after completion?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this or even cited Manual of Style if possible. Because if my intuition has been incorrect all this time, I have a ton of articles to fix. Jg2904 (talk) 07:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I would suggest not to change anything until this problem is solved. Well, composers may take many years to write a composition. The year of the first performance seems to be more important. This is how it is given in guides and encyclopaedias. In extreme cases perhaps other rules apply. This is a general, important issue and maybe we should take it to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music page... Cote d'Azur (talk) 08:05, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree. And yes, I won't be making any changes of this nature until some consensus is found. Jg2904 (talk) 19:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

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Moganite/morganite

Your recent edit to moganite introduced a rather absurd error. It isn't morganite .... I've removed the image. Yeah, stuff happens :) Vsmith (talk) 13:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Stub tags

Hi Cote d'Azur, please check the talk pages of articles before adding stub tags, as they may already be classed as a start...Jokulhlaup (talk) 16:20, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Cote d'Azur (talk) 16:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

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Aloha, Cote d'Azur! You are invited to join WikiProject Hawaii, a collaborative effort which aims to create, expand, and maintain Hawaii-related articles. If you'd like to join, please sign up here. All kōkua is appreciated! Mahalo!

Aloha, Peaceray, mahalo nui loa! I am just visiting at the moment but I will think about the invitation. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 17:38, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Username

I think you commented somewhere that your French was rusty. Maybe that's why Côte is missing its circumflex in your username? Amicalement, Awien (talk) 15:33, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

No, my French is not rusty. The missing diacritic is deliberate. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 15:59, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
Dommage. Awien (talk) 16:40, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Nice work

I noticed your editing on the Outline of Italy. Extraordinarily thorough job you are doing there. I especially like the thumbnail images. Nice touch. Thank you, and keep up the excellent work. The Transhumanist 21:23, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I will, and thank you for starting the page. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 02:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome. I see you have also worked on the Outline of San Marino, about the enclave landlocked inside Italy. Nice job there too. By the way, have you seen the Outline of Vatican City? Since you are working on Italy, you might find that one relevant to your interests. The Transhumanist 19:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Outline of Italy was a great pleasure to do, I am glad you like it, I had not expected so cordial a reception. When I finish with Italy I will try to do the same thing for Greece. Thank you for creating that page too. I saw the Vatican City outline but that will have to wait.—Cote d'Azur (talk) 03:47, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Outline of Rome, Outline of Milan

I've started a rudimentary outline on the city of Rome, in case you are interested.

To compare with other cities' treatments, see Category:Outlines of cities. The Transhumanist 22:28, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

I am interested, this one is definitely in my line, will try to do the best for it. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 03:51, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
I noticed a lot of material on Milan, and gathered much of it into Outline of Milan. It is still far from complete. I mention it here in case it falls within your Italian navigation aid development interests. The Transhumanist 08:13, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it does, Turin would be interesting too. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 08:18, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
There is also the Outline of ancient Rome and Outline of classical studies. The Transhumanist 00:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Five more started in WikiProject Outlines' draft space

Enjoy, The Transhumanist 09:28, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

New image at Giants (Greek mythology)

Thanks for adding the new image at Giants (Greek mythology) of Gaia watching Poseidon fighting Polybotes, I wasn't aware that that image existed on Wikipedia. But I've undone your edit—for now at least—because it replaced an image of Dionysus battling a Giant with his thyrsus, that I think needs to be where it is to help illustrate the text which discusses Apollodorus' account in which "Eurytus was killed by Dionysus with his thyrsus". I will try to find another more appropriate place for the new Poseidon vs Polybotes image. Paul August ☎ 13:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 14:07, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I've now aded the new image back to Giants (Greek mythology) in the section "Named Giants". I also added the image of the cup to our Polybotes article, which fits nicely there as the cup was already discussed there. So thanks again for making me aware of this important image. Paul August ☎ 14:39, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Great, thank you! —Cote d'Azur (talk) 14:40, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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Outline of Florence

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Great, you have done an excellent job as well! On to Outline of Turin now? —Cote d'Azur (talk) 10:44, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Turin sounds good, as does Vienna. ;) When will you be transferring Vienna to article space? The Transhumanist 07:45, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Right now. —Cote d'Azur (talk) 07:46, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Cool. I'll have a go at it soon, and will add it to my watchlist right away. The Transhumanist 09:45, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
The introduction would profit from your attention... —Cote d'Azur (talk) 09:59, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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