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Rihanna

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Following this close, I've resumed discussion on the talk page of the article in question, but I honestly realize that the discussion has stalled (that editor has already stated they "will not be leaving any further comments"), and that's why I initiated dispute resolution in the first place. (Other editors and I have already listed WP:RS.) What should be done if there is a clear consensus for the proposed changes? (Which seems to already be the case.) Who should edit the article accordingly? I'll wait a few days to see if there are further comments. Israell (talk) 14:53, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

User:Israell - My first item of advice is to discuss at the bottom of the article talk page, rather than continuing a discussion in the middle of the talk page. Some editors look at the bottom of the talk page and not in the middle. My second item of advice is to edit the article boldly. In particular, edit the lede section to add "songwriter" or any other activity to the opening sentence. If that is reverted, either start an RFC or request that I start an RFC for you. I have started more than a hundred RFCs and am willing to start one for you. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:59, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
I'm thinking of requesting an RfC, but it'd need to be based on Wiki policies, not simply the number of votes. Speculation (original research or hearsay) that Rihanna steals credits or only changes one word or adds a line; demands that I provide information that is not publicly available (such as what Rihanna and the other writers composed or authored exactly in so or so song—no high quality source goes into such details; that's not how collaborative songwriting is documented); dismissal of official, industry-backed credits and reliable sources because of one's personal bias that's she's not a "true" songwriter, etc. should not be the basis of the final outcome. Israell (talk) 18:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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Robert, you wrote below: "the requester has not stated what they want to change in the infobox or the article, which may be to list Rihanna as a songwriter"... I did type: "Robert, you may go ahead with the RfC. This time, it's for addition of the songwriter occupation in both the lede and infobox of the Rihanna article (so "songwriter" comes second, just after the "singer" occupation)."
Also, I filed for arbitration because I was advised to. I was then told it was not a proper venue, so I withdrew my request.
And finally, I've been discussing this topic on the talk page of the article for four months now. Several editors agree w/ the proposed changes. One editor is particularly opposed to it and has repeatedly fought me on it and edit-warred, dismissing all of my arguments. Other editors and I have provided extensive reliable sources to support the proposed changes, but that editor and another one are now asking for a level of details that is impossible to provide, and that's not reasonable.
Thank you for your response. I'll still file the RfC. Israell (talk) 19:12, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
User:Israell - Who advised you to file a Request for Arbitration? I see who advised you not to file a Request for Arbitration, but not who advised you to file it. The user who gave you that advice needs advice about arbitration. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:33, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

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Dispute re: Draft: Alice Duport-Portier DRN Revision 1346502099

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Thanks for the help. The context on this dispute is that the article was in Main space for 2 months, previously reviewed for quality, then an editor suddenly bumped it to draft space without notice on talk page. I would like your help restoring to Mainspace as it was before. Tonymetz 💬 17:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

User:Tonymetz - Articles that have been in article space for less than 90 days may be unilaterally draftified once, and Draft:Alice Duport-Percier was in article space for about 60 days. I understand that having an article draftified in that fashion is annoying, but, in my opinion, User:Boynamedsue was correct that the sources were not independent. The help that I can provide to restore the article to mainspace is to give you the advice that I am giving you, which is to find secondary sources. I think it is reasonable to infer that there are such sources; we just need to find them. You may, at any time, move the draft back into article space. If you do that, and the sources are thought not to be sufficient, it will not be moved back to draft space again, but it may be nominated for deletion. The help that you can give to yourself is to continue looking for one or two more independent secondary sources. Do you have any further questions, or do you want to continue work on the sources? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Hi Tonymetz, it's strange that you have received notification the article was reviewed. It came up on the new pages worklist, which is the only reason I saw it. It shouldn't have been there if someone has reviewed it. As Robert McClenon said, I totally understand how it is annoying, but draftication is part of the process that ensures our new articles pass the various notability guidelines. Boynamedsue (talk) 18:43, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
User:Boynamedsue, User:Tonymetz - There were several edits made to the article in article space in February, and the author could easily have considered them to be 'reviews'. However, 'reviewed' has a technical meaning in Wikipedia, and occurs when the reviewer clicks on the button to give the article a status of 'reviewed'. It doesn't look as though that happened. Two of those minor edits definitely would not have marked it reviewed, because they marked it as needing work, a tag for more citations needed, and a tag for a living person with the year of birth unknown. So I think that Tonymetz meant that the article was edited, which it was, and thought that the editors had approved it, which they did not. What is needed now is better sources, as both Smowman304 and Boynamedsue said. Wikipedia has its own terminology, just as many crafts and specialties have their own terminology. Sometimes new or even intermediate editors don't realize that Wikipedia has its own terminology, and that it is necessary for Wikipedia to have its own terminology, and they sometimes become confused as a result. Continue improving the sourcing of the draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:03, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
I had the article reviewed for the Content Assessment scale by the Biographies of Living Persons assessment team. See: Draft talk:Alice Duport-Percier. Tonymetz 💬 19:23, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Ah right, I understand what has happened. It's a question of terminology again. These are two different processes. The content assessment gives a grade on the quality of the article. The new article review is intended to filter out articles that are not yet ready for publication.Boynamedsue (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
I agree the sources need improvement, and another editor had marked with "sources needed" template. My appeal is about the comms and the actions taken. There seem to be plenty of "sources needed" articles in Mainspace, and by achieving content assessment (see below), this article met the bar for Mainspace.
My concern is about unilateral draft-ification without communicating on the Talk page. This would have been easily resolved with notes added to talk about sources needed, which sources were bad, a timeline to draftify, so editors could work on quality . Now the article is stuck in draft queue for months. A poor experience. Tonymetz 💬 19:27, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
A content assessment, especially an assessment of "start", doesn't indicate an automatic acceptance at review.
In this case, perhaps it would have been better to leave a message on the nature of the problems with the sources, but as it stands the article (still) does not pass WP:GNG and there are 18,000 new articles in need of review, many of which are ready for mainspace. Marking an article as reviewed does make a significant difference to its visibility.
It's unfortunately not realistic to expect a personalised explanation of sourcing on every draftified article, beyond the message on your talkpage. You will also notice that I did give you further explanation within half an hour of your message on my talkpage.Boynamedsue (talk) 22:09, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Sounds like we've both heard each other out. Thank you for your service. Tonymetz 💬 22:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Dutertism

Hello Robert McClenon please accept this draft as a article. Because I want to separate the article of the Political positions of Rodrigo Duterte for Dutertism. Thank you!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dutertism

They have already article for these political ideologies in other countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsonarism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujimorism Toniker0501 (talk) 08:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

User:Toniker0501 - On 6 December 2025, I advised you to discuss at Talk:Political positions of Rodrigo Duterte as to whether a separate article should be accepted. I don't see any discussion. Please discuss at Talk:Political positions of Rodrigo Duterte. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:37, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
It's already done Toniker0501 (talk) 04:51, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

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Your Draft:ACT Expo was deleted as advertising. I see that I looked at it, but I don't remember the details, and cannot advise you about it. I would suggest that you ask for advice at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:33, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
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I didn't create the draft. I copied it from DRV, which was not where it belonged, to draft space (which is where it would have belonged if it had been written by a human). User:Nil NZ - I didn't check the references, and evidently neither did the author, because at least those 3 references were hallucinated. Thank you for checking for artificial intelligence. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:53, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
Oops, that would have been Twinkle! At least AFCH sent the decline to the right destination, but I'll manually post this to the TA's talk page now. Cheers! nil nz 06:04, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
User:Nil NZ - No apology in order. That was not meant as a criticism of you. It was useful that I got it, because there is a Deletion Review about it, so that I could notify Deletion Review that it is the product of artificial intelligence because it has hallucinated references. Also, in my opinion, notice to the temporary account is neither harmful nor useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:28, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

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User:Super Goku V - Thank you for the notice. I will comment in the Analysis of Evidence. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:28, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
I couldn't respond in the Evidence section for three reasons. First, it closed not long after you posted your evidence. Second, I was close to 500 words already. Third, my comments would not really have been evidence. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:41, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
Sorry regarding the first part. This case has been dragging on me and I haven't been editing as much as a result. In any case, I should have mentioned some context earlier that my evidence was the comment that I was going to post to ANI last month, with some changes to condense the text in spots and some expansions for reading. (I think it is 95% or more as it was.) Hence why it feels a bit off compared to how others have been presenting their evidence. --Super Goku V (talk) 13:46, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

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Hello I saw that you closed the dispute discussion for Rıza Kayaalp due to the other editors not answering and one being partially blocked. I have also tried third opinion resolution but that was not possible as a third account (the temporary one) joined into the dispute. I think having another editor to look at it regardless would be helpful, as I have tried to explain on the talk page the counting of medals in that there was no 2015 European Wrestling Championships and that it was incorporated into the 2015 European Games, and as you will see the medal is already accounted for under that and there are no 13 European Championships gold medals listed, only 12 in the infobox. When I tried to explain in the edit summaries, I was personally attacked here and here, so a third/fourth opinion would be helpful, as if I edit it boldly to correct it, it would just be undone. Another editor corrected the total from 13 to 12 here, but a temporary account again changed it back a few days ago here. Reaper1945 (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

User:Reaper1945 - I will take a look within 24 hours and let you know what I think. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:44, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
User:Reaper1945 - I count 12 gold medals in European championships in the detailed portion of the infobox. There appears to be some sort of double-counting to get the 13. I have changed the number of European championship gold medals to 12, which changes the total medal count to 52. If a temporary account changes it again, then you or I can each restore the 12 once, and then, if necessary, request semi-protection of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:13, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
Thank you for the help, I appreciate you taking time out of your day to look at the issue and helps towards fixing it. Like you said, if temporary accounts keep changing it, semi-protecting may be necessary. Reaper1945 (talk) 01:25, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
Another temporary account has changed the number once more and I reverted and referred to discuss changes on the talk page. As you said revert once, and if necessary semi-protection. Reaper1945 (talk) 05:07, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
User:Reaper1945 - I have reverted the edits again and have added to your request for semi-protection. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:58, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

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User:Sutyarashi - I am not sure what the question should be. The steps that I thought were happening were, first, you edited with Visual Editor, and it inserted whitespace. Second, Sheriff removed the whitespace and warned you to stop inserting whitespace and to stop using a tool, Visual Editor, that inserted whitespace. I don't think that the removal of the whitespace was useful, but at the same time I don't see any harm from the removal of the whitespace. That is a cosmetic edit that appears to be a large edit because of the large number of empty bytes inserted or removed. I did think that you had a valid complaint, not about the removal of the whitespace, but about being scolded about the insertion of the whitespace and being told not to use a tool. I don't think that they are going to scold you again about whitespace. If they do warn or rebuke you about the whitespace, you may go back to Village pump (technical), which is the right forum to discuss Visual Editor and whitespace. If you want to ask any questions there, you may ask them there. My advice is to resume editing using whatever tools you want to use. I don't think that you need to ask any further questions unless you are warned or cautioned. Is that an answer, or is there another question? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:01, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
No other questions. Thanks for the advice. The larger issue wasn't that they reverted my edits, but that they have been undoing work by every single editor whose edit happened to introduce spaces, and the issue is likely to persist unless they allow it to let go. Sutyarashi (talk) 14:53, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
User:Sutyarashi - Are they deleting any substantive updates while removing whitespace? If so, I think it is time to report them at WP:ANI. Otherwise, we should wait until someone else complains. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

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Thanks for helping get that sub-page of mine tagged for speedy deletion. I made the mistake of making it too large for me to edit comfortably, and I appreciate the help in cleaning up my workspace. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:16, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SchroCat closed

Arbitration case Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SchroCat – which you were the filing party for – has been closed and the final decision is now viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

  • Dronebogus (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from the English Wikipedia. This restriction may be appealed after six months, and every six months thereafter.
  • SchroCat (talk · contribs) is placed on probation. Violations of behavioral expectations may be enforced in the same manner as a contentious topic, including through the standard set of user restrictions, and misconduct may be reported at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard or directly to the Committee at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. This probation may be appealed in six months, and every six months thereafter.
  • Reports at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard about SchroCat are automatically subject to the "AE participation restriction". If there are particular editors whose input would be useful on a given thread, uninvolved administrators are encouraged to use their authority to invite them to comment.
  • SchroCat is banned from the English Wikipedia for three months.
  • SchroCat and Dronebogus are prohibited from interacting with, or commenting on, contributions made by each other, subject to the normal exceptions. This restriction may be appealed six months after the enactment of this remedy, and every six months thereafter.
  • Fortuna imperatrix mundi (talk · contribs) is warned to abide by the civility policy.
  • Fortuna imperatrix mundi is indefinitely banned from user-conduct enforcement noticeboards. FIM is further banned from involving himself in any disputes between other editors, including actions such as warning an editor for their actions in such a dispute, except for obvious vandalism. This restriction may be appealed six months after the enactment of this remedy, and every six months thereafter.
  • Fortuna imperatrix mundi, Ssilvers (talk · contribs), and Tim riley (talk · contribs) are topic banned from article disputes or user disputes involving SchroCat, and vice versa. These restrictions may be appealed by either party six months after the enactment of this remedy, and every six months thereafter.

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SchroCat closed

For the Arbitration Committee, DatGuyTalkContribs 13:52, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

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I got a notification that you sent it, but I'm not seeing it in my inbox or in any other folder in my email. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v MUSHROOM 15:33, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

User:Jéské Couriano - I will try to resend it. It was about banned users, and maybe the ghost of BHG intercepted it. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:31, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
User:Jéské Couriano It should be in your inbox now. If it isn't, I will try another way. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:38, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

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Hunt Museum, Limerick

I saw your comment on Draft:Christ Performing Healing Miracles (Stained glass window). There's also a draft by a different user on an object from the same musem at Draft:Iron Tiara. Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 18:14, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

User:Commandant Quacks-a-lot - There were also two other articles about works of art that I declined because they were partly about the work of art and partly about the artist. I may post an inquiry at the Education Noticeboard. Wikipedia welcomes class projects, but we want to know who the instructor is, and the notability guidelines are the same for drafts submitted by classes as for drafts submitted by anyone else. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:02, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
User:Graciewalters16 has this on their userpage: "Hi, I'm Gracie and I am a Transition Year student in Ardscoil Mhuire and I am taking part in the Art and Feminism Campaign in collaboration with the Hunt Museum." Hope that helps some. I wasn't aware of the Education Noticeboard before, now I'm going to go straight into another rabbit hole 😅. Keep up the good work! Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

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User:HitroMilanese - If you look in detail at the history, you will see that I resubmitted it. I am not sure why I resubmitted it. If you were trying to avoid creating busywork for me by deleting the notice, it didn't do that, because I receive an email when a message is added to my user talk page. So if a message is added to my user talk page and then deleted, I still receive the message, and will look at the history. You couldn't avoid it. It may in this case be my fault because I did submit the sandbox for review, which was not useful because the sandbox is behind the draft. Thank you for trying to simplify my job. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

AELECT questions

Hello Robert McClenon, I noticed that you asked identical questions of all the candidates at AELECT. Thank you for participating in the AELECT process, and contributing to the community's assessment of these candidates. However, when candidates are faced with large numbers of non-tailored questions, it presents an unfair asymmetry of effort. Candidates aren't required to answer all of these questions, but they do tend to feel obligated to, which is a poor use of their time and readers' time when the questions are not individually relevant. For example, given Ca's extensive involvement in LLM cleanup, I'm not convinced asking about LLMs told us anything new about them; it might have been more useful to ask something more targeted like, "Do you anticipate that admin tools will affect any of your LLM cleanup work?" In future elections, I'd like to suggest that you pose questions case-by-case -- perhaps explaining why the question is relevant to that particular candidate, and checking to be sure they have not already addressed the topic. Thanks again. ~ le 🌸 valyn (talk) 20:33, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, User:LEvalyn - I partly agree and mostly disagree. I see that there is now discussion at WT:Administrator elections, and will discuss there. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:10, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

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RfC closure

Hi, @Robert McClenon: This RfC has now run its course. Discussion wrapped up over a month ago, and there is now a clear consensus (YES votes + arguments). Could you please close it and implement the decision? According to WP:CR, I can do so myself right now, but I'd sincerely rather another editor do it. (The closure requests noticeboard can only be used if consensus is unclear, etc.) Israell (talk) 09:04, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

User:Israell - Closed and done. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:52, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Robert! Israell (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

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