Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red

Hi! I'd like to suggest Jenny Siler for an English Wikipedia article. She's an American novelist who currently has:

• Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3177168
• German Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Siler
• French Wikipedia: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Siler

About her:

• Born 1971 in New Brunswick, New Jersey
• Author of novels including Easy Money, Iced, and The Art of the Heist: Confessions of a Master Thief
• Edgar Award nominee
• New York Times Notable Book author
• Author website: https://www.jennysiler.com/
• Goodreads profile: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/86038.Jenny_Siler

She appears to meet notability guidelines with her Edgar nomination and New York Times recognition. Would anyone be interested in helping translate one of the existing articles or creating an English version? I'm happy to help with the process. Foodbark (talk) 21:31, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Just to add, her works seem to have received critical attention from Publishers Weekly and Kirkus Reviews as well, which are two places I'd normally check for notable American writers. I'll add her to my list but I may not get to her any time soon, happy for anyone else to jump in if they have the capacity/inclination. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 21:46, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the French and German pages are very poorly referenced. We can't include information that's not supported by reliable sources, so I don't think simple translation is a good option here. The book reviews would let us write a basic bibliography-style page, but are you aware of any independent, reliable sources that could be used to flesh out the biography section? pburka (talk) 22:29, 11 February 2026 (UTC)

Foodbark, Chocmilk03, Pburka, here's some sources to help.

• Crime by Marilyn Stasio, The New York Times (January 24, 1999)
• Movement and Memory: Reconfiguring the Significance of Place in Jenny Siler’s Easy Money and Flashback by Cathrine Avery, Contemporary Women's Writing (March 2022)
• Big in crime by Maxim Jakubowski, The Guardian (February 9, 2001)
• Thrillers by Jean Heller, Tampa Bay Times (January 17, 1999)
• Scene of the Crime by Adam Woog, The Seattle Times (March 9, 2007)
• Crime Books by Margaret Cannon, The Globe and Mail (March 20, 2004)
• Radio, darkness, Missoula, wit by Dail Willis, The Baltimore Sun (January 7, 2001)
• The Interrogator by Lorraine Adams, The New York Times (March 16, 2008)
• The essence of identity, The Daily Telegraph (April 18, 2007)
• Crime Round Up March 2004 by Philip Oakes, Literary Review (March 2004)
• Lost and Loving It by Patrick Anderson, The Washington Post (March 17, 2008)
• Talking back to Chandler and Spillane : gender and agency in women's hard-boiled detective fiction by Cathrine Avery, Birkbeck University of London (2017)
• World View by Ray Routhier, Portland Press Herald (June 21, 2009) (Page 2)
• Gritty mystery is better than its gritty coffee by Mario Szichman, Courier-Post (March 3, 2001)
• Familiar ground by Vince Devlin, The Missoulian (January 14, 2001) (Page 2)

I hope these sources are useful for whomever decides to make an article on Siler. Silverseren^C 02:22, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

There is Draft:Jenny Siler, created in Nov 2024 by @KeithDunlap: who only made 7 edits, of which 4 have been deleted and 3 were to this and its talk page. An earlier article was PRODded as an unsourced BLP in 2010. Seems like time for a decent article, but it might be possible to use the existing draft as a basis to save some typing of lists of works etc, although the new editor wouldn't then get credit for having created it (but could of course claim it for WiR). PamD 15:27, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Note that she also has articles in ht.wiki (Haitian Creole - new to me, too) and it.wiki.

And a pseudonym, Alex Carr, which will need a redirect! And there was a redirect at that name in 2010, plus an earlier "Alex Carr" article which was speedy deleted as {{db-bio}} (not notable biog) in 2006 and may or may not have been the same person! PamD 15:33, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I see that WiR member @RebeccaGreen worked on the draft in January. PamD 15:37, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I now see also that the entire text of the "biography" part of the draft is copyvio, lifted from https://www.jennysiler.com/bio.htm ! PamD 15:43, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I think the most (only?) usable part of that draft is the citation to a newspaper article providing some good biographical background: Devlin, Vince (July 1, 2002). "Siler trades odd jobs for writing novels". The Missoulian. Missoula, Montana. p. 1. Retrieved 5 May 2025.. pburka (talk) 15:50, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I've started working on the draft (basically starting from scratch), and welcome any other contributors. I suspect the creator may have a conflict of interest, but am satisfied she is independently notable. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 21:59, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

See: here. EN-WP: 20.29%. Woohoo! -- Rosiestep (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Rosiestep Humaniki 2.0 seems to be a new tool, but it is similar to the old Humaniki. Have you seen any on wiki discussion about it? TSventon (talk) 16:48, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

TSventon, I haven't seen on-wiki discussion about it. I saw a message & link on Telegram, posted by Nattes à chat, founder of LesSansPages. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:38, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I think a total for all genders at the bottom of the page would be useful. TSventon (talk) 16:48, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi there, as we were nagging all the time about the absence of denelezeh, and then the break down of Humaniki, @Wyslijp16 did a python script and set everything up on fr-wp. She told me it can easily be replicated but I don't have a clue how to do it. I am trying to convince her to make a presentation at Wikimania ! Nattes à chat (talk) 17:55, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

We also have this that you might want to replicate : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Les_sans_pagEs/Denelezh_2.0. If you click on the number for the data elements you get access to a working list of women missing for the given professions. Useful to know which professions are missing most Nattes à chat (talk) 18:01, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Nattes à chat, thanks. Is there an EN-WP version of the professions data? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:53, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

No but I believe we could help in setting it up, or providing the explanation on how it works Nattes à chat (talk) 16:36, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

It's basically linked to wikidata so multilingual :) Nattes à chat (talk) 16:37, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Maybe we can set this as a challenge for the hackaton at Wikimania ? Nattes à chat (talk) 16:38, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

I just realise that @Wyslijp16 has done it for all wikipedias https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Index/Projet:Les_sans_pagEs/Humaniki_2.0/ Nattes à chat (talk) 16:40, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Nattes à chat I think Rosiestep was asking about an en Wikipedia version of https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Les_sans_pagEs/Denelezh_2.0, not of Humaniki 2.0. TSventon (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

@Nattes à chat, I guess @Rosiestep wanted an wpen version of Denelezh 2.0. I'm constanly working on Humaniki 2.0 (currently preparing an stable version), but I will try to work on Denelezh 2.0 next ! Wyslijp16 (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

This is great news! I have been updating the statistics on our Project page for several years, most recently by downloading the QLever figures to a spreadsheet and calculating the percentage manually. Downloading the Humaniki 2.0 figures to calculate the total bios is much easier, but it would be preferable if it could be done automatically. My request would be for a timestamp. Oronsay (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Just commenting here to say a big thank you to @Oronsay for keeping the statistics going, thank you!!!! Lajmmoore (talk) 10:45, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

Still using QLever, as I'm unclear how often the stats from Humaniki 2.0 are being updated. Oronsay (talk) 20:45, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

• I've just seen this. Looks good but has Maximilianklein had anything to do with it or is this a separate development?--Ipigott (talk) 13:21, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

I've just discovered List of English people, because I was alerted to an article I'd created being linked. I never knew it existed, and it seems rather ridiculous to have such a broad list (though it's categorised, and some sections just refer the reader to a more specific list). I'm amazed to see that it doesn't seem to have been proposed for deletion at any time since its creation in 2002. But since it exists I'll now go through my article creations and do a "What links here", and add them to that list or appropriate sublists, or equivalents for other nationalities. Exploring the hierarchy of categories I found Category:Lists of people by nationality and its child category Category:Lists of women by nationality, so there are many of these - but it's inconsistent, there doesn't seem to be such a comprehensive list for New Zealand, the random example I first checked (there are lots of lists, shown at Lists of New Zealanders, but nowhere for the miscellaneous people who appear in List of English people#Other notables: I wonder whether they all get shoehorned into one of the specific lists). To make women more prominent in the encyclopedia, we need to ensure that they are appropriately represented in all relevant lists.

Maybe it could be a month's target - "List them"? Or just a tip-of-the-month?

Or perhaps everyone here knows about all these lists already, and/or the list fanatics out there are picking up on all our new creations and adding them to the lists they curate! PamD 09:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into this, PamD. Over the years I have created quite a number of lists specifically for women in different spheres of interest. Most of them should be included in Lists of women. In my opinion, I think it would be more useful to develop these lists further (perhaps on the basis of pertinent categories) rather than to include lots of new entries in general listings such as List of English people or similar, including all those under Lists of people by nationality. Nevertheless, it may be useful to check that the general country-based lists provide links to those specifically concerned with women. I would also suggest that as we have a focus this year on women in sports, we should ensure that related lists are included in the Sports section of Lists of women (many are not).--Ipigott (talk) 11:24, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

I think that where a list such as List of English people exists, we need to ensure that all relevant women are included, so that it is clear that women are "writers" not just "women writers", "politicians" not just "women politicians". PamD 11:48, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

I remember that some years ago there was indeed a problem with American writers and American women writers. So you are probably right. But it's going to require a tremendous amount of editing to follow up on your suggestions. It would be interesting to see what others think.--Ipigott (talk) 13:42, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

I've spent a bit of time on articles I've created, working back from the oldest. (See my contributions list for today, with some gaps to cook, eat, do other things). My first creation was Mary Robinson (Maid of Buttermere) in May 2007, but after that I'm shocked how few women's articles I created before joining WiR in late 2015! I've added all those pre-WiR women to their appropriate lists as far as I can find them. Our collection of lists is very inconsistent, but a regular problem was British women who aren't identifiably English / Scottish / Welsh / Irish. There are lots of lists of "English xxxers", but very few for British. So especially for people who have migrated into Britain and become British, it's difficult. But it's been an interesting exercise, and I plan to continue. Almost none of these women were included in any of the lists I found for them, so people looking at those lists were not being alerted to the fact that women are, and have been, English playwrights, Chilean scientists, and so on. It seems worth raising the profile of women by adding them to these lists where we can. PamD 23:51, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

100%. I spent some hours a few years back making sure that all women in List of New Zealand women writers and List of New Zealand women artists were included in List of New Zealand writers and List of New Zealand artists respectively. I still monitor those pages and often women are added to the former but not the latter. I'm sure this is true for other countries.

(I also started going through relevant categories and adding missing entries; interestingly, I found men were more likely to be missing from the relevant "List of New Zealand X" - so women were more likely to be on one of the lists, even if only the gendered one. Not sure why that would be!) Chocmilk03 (talk) 05:37, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Strangely, while we have about 50 English artists listed including 10 women (close to the current prevailing 20%), we also have 498 women artists listed at List of English women artists. We could of course import these into the List of English people section and achieve a 91% female list. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 12:41, 25 February 2026 (UTC).

I see that since I stopped updating this page manually a couple of years ago, it has remained static. I suggest its icon on the WiR pages should be deleted. In any case, pertinent info is provided automatically under Article alerts on our main page.--Ipigott (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

I've removed the Showcase icon myself and adapted references to it.--Ipigott (talk) 10:32, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

I created this page from Hansard. It's a list of as many female Parliamentarians as I could identify from the full list on their site. While gender is generally clear from the title, in some cases I had to resort to first names, and, of course, some, like Evelyn and Morgan (and even Courtney) are not gender specific. There are a few red links in the list. They may merely require redirects of course. Conversely some of the blue links may be to a different person.

I also came across this much older list of about 20 young women from Huffpost in 2013. At least one of these red links was an article that has has been deleted, but may now be ripe for resurrection. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 16:46, 24 February 2026 (UTC).

I've fixed the redlinked "A" parliamentarians, except Mary Aubrey-Fletcher who gets a red link in Baron_Braye#Barons_Braye_(1529) as Mary Penelope Aubrey-Fletcher, 8th Baroness Braye and probably ought to have an article.

Some of the names are amazing: Helen Asquith (now a redirect) is Violet Bonham Carter, full name Helen Violet Bonham Carter, Baroness Asquith of Yarnbury. Just shows how important it is to create redirects from all plausible versions of a woman's name! PamD 17:02, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! I noticed Helen Asquith, as a probable redirect. I always try to create as many of the redirects as I can - see for example Dorothy Jewson whose real first name was Dorothea and who had three surnames over her life. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:14, 24 February 2026 (UTC).

Looking at Bs: Katherine Bigham is redlinked as Katherine Evelyn Constance Bigham, Viscountess Mersey, 12th Lady Nairne at Lord_Nairne#Lords_Nairne_(1681), and I've added her to the dab page at Lady Nairne. PamD 17:18, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Eva Milman is now a redirect to Baron_Berkeley#Barons_Berkeley,_by_writ,_Second_Creation_(1421) where she's listed as a redlink with a much fuller name. PamD 11:52, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Done a few more, but given up for now at Rosina Touchet-Jesson - if anyone fancies a challenge, she gets a mention in her husband's page and at List of female members of the House of Lords and changed her name by deed poll, and could do with several incoming redirects as she was Rosina Lois Veronica Tuchet-Jesson (and both spellings seem to be used - one of the people in the deed poll was Thomas Percy Henry Touchet Tuchet-Jesson!)

But basically it's lunchtime and this was a pleasant job to work through while listening to Sunday morning's Radio 4 diet of Desert Island Discs and The Archers omnibus! Might continue later. PamD 12:35, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

Redirected Vera Tyrwhitt to her place in Baron Berners, where she's listed as 15th Baroness. She made no speech in the Lords, so seems barely notable for an article. PamD 18:00, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

All the red links done except a handful mentioned above; some dab pages left. Various extra redirects created for some of these multi-named women.

If this is supposed to be a complete list of parliamentarians, then Jenny Jones, Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (born 1949) is missing: the "Jenny Jones" in the list is Jenny Jones (Labour politician) (born 1948). PamD 18:16, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

I can't find the baroness on Hansard's list. Any that I have missed will be on this page. Anything else missing is missing on Hansard. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:36, 1 March 2026 (UTC).

Grizel Claire is actually Grizel St. Claire as far as I can tell. No speeches. No article for her, her husband, father or daughters (I think), but two for her sons John St Clair, Master of Sinclair and James St Clair. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:32, 1 March 2026 (UTC).

Judith J. Leidl, MFA: Artist and Associate Professor, Studio Art, Acadia University, Wolfville, Nova Scotia, CANADA ~2026-12400-77 (talk) 22:23, 24 February 2026 (UTC)

Noting this Wikidata item: Judith J. Leidl (Q96955364). Peaceray (talk) 17:32, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Women in Red | March 2026, Vol 12, Issue 3, Nos 358, 359, 364, 365, 366 Online events: March 1-31: Artists & Activists | Artworks by women | Alphabet run: countries starting with C Continuing (year-long initiatives): #1day1woman | Sports Announcements from other communities: Celebrate Women Unreferenced articles backlog drive Wiki Loves Ramadan Tip of the month: Those experiencing difficulties with new articles can follow the guidance in our essays, perhaps starting with our Ten Simple Rules. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest

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Hello, second article is done at a rough state: Draft:Ellen Feder

If anyone could take a look I would appreciate it massively :) KingLeonid1 (talk) 13:33, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

A few first impressions:

• Using the subject's first name is almost never appropriate tone for an encyclopedia. Use her surname.
• A "Life" section is typically for her personal life. I'd rename that "Career"
• She clearly passes WP:NPROF as she holds a named chair, but that info is a bit hidden. I think that ought to be mentioned in the lead paragraph.

pburka (talk) 14:09, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

How do I add the NPROF? Sorry, I'm new to this! KingLeonid1 (talk) 14:24, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

WP:NPROF is a notability guideline. It explains which academics are considered sufficiently notable to have wiki pages. You should always ensure that the subject you plan to write about is notable before you spend too much time writing. It's also a good idea to highlight their notability early in the article. In Feder's case, the named chair makes her stand out from the average professor, so I recommend mentioning it in the lead. pburka (talk) 14:33, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

For books in her publications list, find the isbns (preferably first hardback ed) and add them using {{ISBN}}: they then become a clickable link which the reader can follow to get more information about the book, and they serve to verify the info about the book in the publications list. I've added one as a demo. PamD 17:24, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

The tip in the January invitation calling for assistance in reducing the backlog of women's biographies seems to have been pretty effective, bringing the listing down from over 1500 to just 520. This was also partly due to the current contest which continues with opportunities for February too. I hope our administrators and authorized page reviewers will continue their efforts.--Ipigott (talk) 08:45, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• I'm pleased to be able to report that with the help of the January/February contest, as of 1 March the number of non-reviewed articles is now down to just 233. It would be good if we could continue to keep this down to a reasonable level. But thanks to all who have helped with this work. It is an important aspect of attracting new contributors.--Ipigott (talk) 13:35, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
  • I had a look at the WP:NPP talk page here and the main drive seems to have made limited progress due to unexpectedly high numbers of new articles in the period. Oddly the numbers of new biography articles in January and February per QLever seem to be in line with last year. TSventon (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

• Yes, the unreviewed women biographies and related articles were reduced far more than the overall results of the drive in January and February. Furthermore, most of those that were still listed had recommendations from reviewers for various types of attention.--Ipigott (talk) 08:30, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

After creating the redlist for 2026 deaths, I have added it to the Redlist index and the Recent deaths and 2025 deaths pages. Rather than manually update the remaining pages for deaths in 2015–2024, it would be great if a WiR tech angel could create a page header template that could be applied to each page, updated annually. Oronsay (talk) 20:46, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

In the absence of template help, I've added 2026 deaths to all remaining redlists. Oronsay (talk) 18:52, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello folks, another session organised by the amazing @SarahFColborne today, with five new articles from new editors: Helen Elizabeth Meller, Inez de Castro (warden), Margaret Glen Bott, Edith Becket and Ida Sargent (musician). If you're near Nottingham (UK) on Saturday, there is a one day exhibition about their editing efforts so far! Lajmmoore (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello: I am a paid/COI editor hired by Jeannette Paulson Hereniko. She is the founder of the Hawaii International Film Festival. She already has an article, but it is very poorly sourced and doesn't currently meet Wikipedia's sourcing guidelines. I would like to help her bring the article into compliance by adding acceptable sources. I posted a request on her talk page on February 1. An editor responded asking for clarification of my request. I responded the following day and have not heard from any editors since. I was wondering if it would be a better idea accomplish the task in this space? I've noticed that requests in the COI queue that have considerable content or sources to review can have long wait times. I see one of the themes for this month is Women Artists. Jeannette has produced several films, and written and performed two one-woman shows. Any feedback would be appreciated on proceeding on Jeannette's behalf. She also has a very tight budget. If a volunteer was interested in helping her instead of me, I would be happy to pass on the sources I've found for her article. She is lovely and at 85, I get the feeling that for her, time may be of the essence. Thank you very much and best, LeepKendall (talk) 17:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

 Done pburka (talk) 17:47, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I have more citations to request adding. Shall I post them on Jeannette's talk page and then share that here? I so appreciate your time. Best, LeepKendall (talk) 19:28, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm watching the talk page now and will be happy to review them there. pburka (talk) 19:30, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so very much! LeepKendall (talk) 19:34, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello, I would be grateful for advice regarding a declined draft about a contemporary woman artist.

The draft is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Olympe_Ramakrishna

The subject has received substantial coverage in independent national media (more than 15 press articles dedicated to her work), and a Wikipedia article already exists in French: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympe_Ramakrishna

I would greatly appreciate any guidance on how best to address the notability concern raised during the review.

Thank you very much for your time and support. Saloj Nair (talk) 05:47, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi there, Saloj Nair. I'm sorry to see you are experiencing difficulty with your first article. In connection with artists, you can find guidance here. More generally, you can follow the tips in our Ten Simple Rules. Above all, it is important to find independent reliable sources which show the subject has obtained significant appreciation, for example by means of generally recognized awards or the inclusion of artworks in permanent exhibitions in museums or galleries of note. Please let me know if you are able to improve your draft along these lines. Unfortunately, the requirements for inclusion of new articles in the English Wikipedia are more demanding than those in many other language versions. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 09:46, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

I think this is a good example of what's wrong with AfC. The page was declined with a terse explanation that the sources aren't independent. My best guess is that the reviewer is using a very narrow interpretation of "independence" and discounting any source which quotes the subject. In my opinion, this article is suitable for mainspace and the rejection was inappropriate. pburka (talk) 13:54, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

I tend to agree with you, pburka, but the page was rejected by no less than three AfC reviewers. I would not have rejected it myself but was simply trying to offer some suggestions for improvement. In my experience, Theroadislong is normally more supportive.--Ipigott (talk) 18:02, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much @Ipigott and @Pburka for your feedbacks. I could not find information about artworks in permanent exhibitions or awards in the press. What do you suggest I now do with my draft ? Saloj Nair (talk) 05:37, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

@Saloj Nair: I'm afraid that unless you are able to improve the draft, it will be rejected once again if you resubmit it, I suggest you spend your editing time creating women's biographies which meet the requirements of our Ten Simple Rules. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 08:48, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

OK thank you Saloj Nair (talk) 04:44, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

• Saloj Nair, Ipigott, Pburka, I have moved the article to mainspace. Saloj Nair, I would advise you never bother using Articles for Creation ever again and just work on articles in your personal userspace or sandbox and then move them to mainspace yourself. It's a waste of time to use AFC, as they don't ever follow their own rules at WP:AFCPURPOSE anyways. Not to mention that the reviewer comment about WP:NARTIST was a joke of a claim, as WP:NBASIC right above it clearly showcased why the subject was notable, with over a dozen full length articles on her art across years. Easily and obviously notable. Apologies that you had to waste so much time on that, Saloj Nair, but at least the article is active now. Silverseren^C 01:47, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

  I strongly agree. Any editor who's advanced beyond the rank novice stage should not be using AFC. While I think AFC probably weeds out a lot of obviously unsuitable garbage, I also think the impenetrable bureaucracy of the process discourages and drives away a huge number of potential new editors. pburka (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Just notifying members of this project that there is a Conflict of Interest edit request relevant to this WikiProject at the Kay Firth-Butterfield article. DrThneed (talk) 03:06, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Hey there, It was brought to my attention that I apparently appear on several of your red lists (Animal Trainers, Writers (Germany), and German Women).

This is of course very flattering. Thank you so much.

I just wanted to reach out to let you know that I have been updating my Wikidata page (Q130815430) with additional references and info (Imdb). Also if you need anything from me for the article - any additional facts, questions, or images — please reach out and let me know.

I'd love to help make your work easier if I can.

Thanks again and take care, Ann. (Ann Castro) Redakteur-W25 (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

I presume that you're the "Bird School" Ann Castro. While it's helpful to have info about you, any editor who wanted to start a biography about you would need to find independent sources demonstrating your (wiki) notability. To assist them, you might want to create a small bibliography somewhere on your user page. This should include news, magazine, or scholarly articles about you (not by you). Note that published interviews generally aren't acceptable. pburka (talk) 18:38, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi pburka, Thank you for your pointers.

I am a complete Newbie here. So ... the info on Wikidata is not what you are looking for? Artikels about me, also interviews, reference to my IMDB page, German National library etc etc. That is not what you are looking for? I thought it was because of this (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130815430) that I even ended up on your red list in the first place?

You mean the user page here on Wiki? I did not realize that existed. lol. Ok, clearly I need to inform myself better.

THanks and take care,

Ann. Redakteur-W25 (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Most of the red lists are, as you note, generated from Wikidata, but, speaking for myself, it would never occur to me to look on Wikidata for sources. It's also important to note that inclusion in Wikidata does not guarantee that a topic is eligible for a Wikipedia article. To be eligible, a topic must meet one of our notability guidelines, typically the WP:General notability guideline or one of the WP:Subject-specific notability guidelines, such as WP:NPROF. Notability isn't determined by sheer volume of sources, and too many sources can even be detrimental (see WP:REFBOMB). It's helpful to editors to try to pick out a handful of really high quality sources to use for the core of the article (see WP:Three sources for thoughts on this). Of course this is only relevant if you really want your biography on Wikipedia. Remember that, once someone does write a page about you, you have minimal control over what is written about you. pburka (talk) 19:49, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi Pburka,

THank you so much for your patience. I never realized there was so much behind it.

And I did exactly what the article you listed says not to do: I gave a reference dump list, thinking the more the better.

One thing I am not quite sure I understand is what needs sources and what not.

FOr example: On my notability: Because I am a parrot expert I got the following:

• I had a TV-Show (national TV Station - VOX) for three years on parrots with problem behaviours, covering all kinds of training topics
• I am on the Expert-Board of WP-Magazin (Which is Europe's biggest Pet bird publication)
• I have written article-series for well known pet magazines (Caes & Cia, WP-Magazin & Ein Herz für Tiere)

Does this cover it and I supply sources for these. Or references outside that this happened - for example articles about me? Press releases?

Or should I only put stuff in that I did not do, but where others commented about it?

How about when TV Stations interviewed me because of my expertise? DOes this count because an interview is about me? Or does it not count because I was in the interview?

I don't really understand the levels, I guess.

I do know though to leave out self published books, even if they are well known, because wiki does not like self-published stuff, correct?

I am a bit overwhelmed to be honest.

Thank you for your patience!

Take care,

Ann. Redakteur-W25 (talk) 11:50, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, the term "notability" has a very specific meaning. It can feel counter-intuitive, but expertise and fame generally don't count directly towards notability. For example, most reporters aren't wiki notable, even though they frequently appear on TV or write about a topic. Similarly, YouTubers or Instagram influencers with millions of followers often aren't notable. Instead, we're looking for evidence that independent, reliable sources have written about you and your work. Published reviews (positive or negative) of your books or TV shows would count, but a press release or a TV listing just confirming the show exists would not. pburka (talk) 12:28, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

THank you for the explanation. So for example the DPA article in which I am mentioned and quoted does not count because it is "WITH" me. However, when Frankfurter RUndschau wrote an article about me being an expert on tropical birds, or Cage & Aviary Birds (UK) wrote an article about me called: "Not your usual parrot person" then that counts because it is "ABOUT" me. Correct?

So in my profile I should just put "ABOUT" articles with some relevant quotes?

Thanks and take care,

Ann. Redakteur-W25 (talk) 10:06, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Yes, or at least it should highlight the best "about you" articles. The other articles can still be used to support facts about you. pburka (talk) 12:26, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I have done this now. Do I need to translate German titles/quotes into English? Also since these are printed articles (no online version available), should I quote excerpts? Putting the PDFs online is tricky with copyright laws. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Redakteur-W25 (talk) 20:10, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi pburka, thank you for the pointers! I have updated my user page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redakteur-W25 with a list of independent sources, including my work as a long-term TV expert for VOX (15 episodes) and various national and international press features. I hope this helps anyone interested in starting the article. Best, Ann. Redakteur-W25 (talk) 19:48, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Artificial intelligence visual art#Requested move 11 February 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Qwerty123M (talk) 00:55, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

Qwerty123M please could you satisfy my curiosity and explain the link to this project? TSventon (talk) 01:10, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

Maybe I didn't need to add this link. I like to make sure consensus can be achieved in discussions like this by publicising the discussion to all relevant WikiProjects. Qwerty123M (talk) 01:22, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

I agree with TSventon, in that I can't see how the discussion is relevant to this WikiProject. pburka (talk) 21:38, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello. I was doing some quick clean up as I've not had time to work on new biogs. I found this article on Margaret Helen Waterfield, which was once on our red lists. I've cleaned it up a fair bit but it still leans very heavily on a single blog source, to the extent that the punctuation was identical. I'm wondering if anyone fancies adding some inline citations to stronger sources before it gets put on a delete list.

EEHalli (talk) 17:42, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Can anyone add Category:Media supported by WikiProject Women in Red to files found on Commons or are there guidelines?

Thank you, -- Ooligan (talk) 17:48, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

That's a really good question, Ooligan. To my knowledge, we don't have guidelines about that. My rule of thumb has been that if I upload an image, which falls within the scope of WiR, then I add Category:Media supported by WikiProject Women in Red, but I don't add it to images that I didn't upload. Thinking on it further though, I'm not sure what's the right answer. For example: I've added a lot of photos to this category Woman's Christian Temperance Union people, but a lot of photos were uploaded by others. Should Category:Media supported by WikiProject Women in Red, be added to the photos added by others? --Rosiestep (talk) 11:38, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Rosiestep,

I have seen this category added by editor that did not upload the file. You mentioned "the scope of WiR," but I could not find the on the project page. Did I miss it?

I would be willing to add that category in the future, if there were some guidance to help me (and others) to help identify files to categorize that would be most useful to the WiR WikiProject.

-- Ooligan (talk) 14:48, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Ooligan, good questions.

The scope of Women in Red is here, e.g. women's representation, broadly construed (e.g., their biographies, their works, their issues).

The categories on Wikimedia Commons that relate to Women in Red are the subcategories of this.

Beyond what I've already mentioned -as we don't have a guideline yet- let's get the opinion of other editors regarding which additional images to add to the subcategories of c:Category:Media supported by WikiProject Women in Red. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:11, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

What benefits does the project gain from categorizing media as "supported by WiR"? Is it primarily to increase visibility of the project? Does it trigger automatic notifications regarding discussions? Something else? pburka (talk) 14:21, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

This article needs sources if anyone has the time to pitch in. Thanks.4meter4 (talk) 18:54, 10 March 2026 (UTC) 16:32, 13 March 2026 (UTC)Ipigott (talk)

Lots of sources in the other language versions but I don't have time.--Ipigott (talk) 16:32, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Pichpich added a couple, so its no longer an urgent need. It is no longer unsourced.4meter4 (talk) 01:49, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Just notifying members of this project that there is a Conflict of Interest edit request relevant to this WikiProject at the Natalia Trayanova article. DrThneed (talk) 21:19, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

For potential reviewers, the subject is a professor and biomedical engineer at Johns Hopkins. She holds a named chair, so WP:NPROF is easily met. pburka (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

A current AfD, Rehana Popal, led me to find the First Hundred Years project which celebrates women in UK law, initially from the centenary of the 1919 change which allowed women to become lawyers. While I haven't found anything about Popal on that site (though this confirms her getting recognition from them, and I'm about to change what seems to be a confusion with the BBC 100 Women), there may be other women listed there who ought to have articles and haven't yet. PamD 09:41, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Ah, how come I didn't spot it: we already have First 100 Years, as a start. PamD 09:59, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

And I've now made a dab page at First Hundred Years. PamD 11:00, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Someone on Threads pointed out that house and husband have articles but not wife. I'll work on it when I get a minute but for now wanted to flag for the team; maybe she meets independent notability, maybe not?

Stephen and Harriet Myers Residence jengod (talk) 19:08, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

This article is currently WP:PRODed. No opinion as to notability, but thought I would let editors know in case it is worth rescuing.4meter4 (talk) 22:16, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of elected and appointed female state leaders#Requested move 9 February 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Qwerty123M (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Members of WiR may be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2026_March_11#Template:He_or_she. pburka (talk) 19:13, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

The article Alaa Murabit was tagged for promotional content in March 2026. Recent edits addressed the flagged issues — weak sources replaced with independent RS, peacock language removed, framing in the islamic financing section trimmed to factual reporting, and infobox reduced to standard format. The article now appears to meet NPOV and BLP sourcing standards. Would appreciate a review from experienced editors for potential tag removal. ~~~~ ~2026-15146-37 (talk) 00:06, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

The article now looks fine to me. No need for further tagging.--Ipigott (talk) 13:44, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

This is currently an unsourced BLP. Any help adding sources is much appreciated. Thanks.4meter4 (talk) 19:25, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

I think the subject of this BLP is notable, though more of the coverage than I'd like is local. It's had issues with promotional tone, and could still do with some work on this. There are also some unsourced statements. Some of the refs are geo-locked to me, so I'm flagging it up here in case anyone else is up for taking a look. Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 08:40, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

The book Literary Divas: The Top 100+ Admired African American Women in Literature mentioned in lead and sourced to one ref, sounds as if it might be interesting as a source for more American writers. Its list of contents, ie names of the 100, is visible in Google Books. PamD 09:56, 18 March 2026 (UTC)