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| Request name | Motions | Case | Posted |
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| Amendment request: WP:STANDARDSET | none | none | 27 March 2026 |
| Clarification request: Iranian politics | Motion | (orig. case) | 28 March 2026 |
| Motion name | Date posted |
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| COIVRT block appeals | 24 March 2026 |
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Amendment request: WP:STANDARDSET
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Initiated by WhatamIdoing at 21:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
Statement by WhatamIdoingWikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle begins like this:
Earlier today, a newer editor put this tag on the page:
This is because ArbCom has adopted the misleading name "Enforced BRD" for a mandatory procedure that has nothing to do with actual WP:BRD beyond the superficial appearance of "If you got reverted, then discuss". We're putting misleading messages on talk pages, like this one:
and then when someone actually tries to read the bold-faced linked page for more information, they're told that it's optional (emphasis in the original) in the very first sentence. We need a new name for this restriction. We need to stop sending people off to a page that emphasizes that this is an optional process that is "best used by experienced Wikipedia editors" and may require more diplomacy and skill to use successfully than other methods, and has more potential for failure and that Using BRD in volatile situations is discouraged. Would ArbCom prefer to choose a non-misleading name, or would they prefer that I start an RFC to have the community rename it? WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
Statement by The Bushranger...I'm not sure I see the problem being described here. BRD is optional. The arbitration enforcement remedy makes it non-optional. (Also, WAID, I know it wasn't your intent, but the wording of that last sentence really kinda comes across as an ultimatum to Arbcom, you may want to consider rewording it.) - The Bushranger One ping only 22:21, 27 March 2026 (UTC) Statement by voorts@Izno: done. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:33, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
Statement by NewslingerOne solution would be to create a standalone Wikipedia:Enforced BRD page (similar to Wikipedia:Consensus required) that WP:STANDARDSET links to instead of WP:BRD. Much of the content on WP:BRD is not relevant to contentious topic procedures, so this would at least partially address WhatamIdoing's suggestion to decouple WP:STANDARDSET from the WP:BRD page. The Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle § Enforced BRD for contentious topics section could then be deleted and replaced with a "See also" link and a hatnote link to Wikipedia:Enforced BRD. This way, the contents of WP:BRD would no longer be a concern for the Committee in this context. — Newslinger talk 02:03, 28 March 2026 (UTC) Statement by AquillionI do think it's a bit silly to highlight the Statement by BluethricecreammanWhy not just do the bold edit and create a draft for WP:ENFORCEDBRD? User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 03:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC) Statement by {other-editor}Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why the Committee should or should not accept the amendment request or provide additional information. WP:STANDARDSET: Clerk notes
WP:STANDARDSET: Arbitrator views and discussion
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Clarification request: Iranian politics
Initiated by Extraordinary Writ at 00:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
List of any users involved or directly affected, and confirmation that all are aware of the request:
- Extraordinary Writ (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) (initiator)
Statement by Extraordinary Writ
WhatamIdoing recently pointed out the remedy at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian politics#RfC moderation. My understanding is that it just encouraged
admins to take advantage of the old discretionary-sanctions power to take any "reasonable measures that the enforcing administrator believes are necessary and proportionate for the smooth running of the project", a power that individual admins no longer have after the WP:CTOP reforms. But it's not especially clear, so I'd appreciate clarification of whether individual admins are currently authorized to impose RfC moratoria. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think IRANPOL needs special tools going beyond what's available in other (much more contentious) areas, and I don't think that was the intention behind this remedy. Maybe a more interesting question is whether to add some of these to the standard set, but although that might have some benefits (e.g., there have been lots of calls for an RfC moratorium at Talk:Gaza genocide), a moratorium is a sufficiently content-adjacent issue that I strongly prefer the status quo of requiring a rough consensus at AE to make sure it's being done prudently. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:33, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
Statement by Vanamonde
I was, at one point, an administrator active in enforcing what was then the post-1978 Iranian politics GS regime. The remedy as written was necessary at the time: RfCs full of stonewalling and bludgeoning were all too frequent. I am not aware of that pattern persisting, in part because of the arb case, and in larger part (in my estimation) because of various anti-abuse investigations removing some of the worst actors. I think the CTOP authorization of "reasonable measures" ought to take care of any needs we presently have. If an admin more recently active in IRANPOL wishes to correct me they should do so. Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:03, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Statement by {other-editor}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should opine whether and how the Committee should clarify or amend the decision or provide additional information.
Iranian politics: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Iranian politics: Arbitrator views and discussion
- I'd say they are, since this motion wasn't changed. But we should probably formally state that with a motion? -- asilvering (talk) 00:35, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
The wikilink refers to the IRP DS/CT regime, but the text also says its intention is
Rather than debate what the status quo is, I think we should figure out what this remedy should say. I would favor terminating the remedy entirely: If this question hasn't come up in the last ~three years, since DS became CT, it probably isn't needed to reduce disruption. If there is not support for that, I can get behind a motion rewriting the remedy for 2026 Wikipedia. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:56, 28 March 2026 (UTC)to facilitate consensus through moderation of any Requests for Comments
(emphasis mine). I assume the intention is to affect any RFC related to IRP, but that's another thing that ought to be clarified by motion.- It may be more useful now than it's been in the last three years, though, for obvious current politics reasons, and it's possible no one's been using it because no one realized they could. Extraordinary Writ, or anyone else handling Iranpol, any comments on whether this is currently necessary or desirable? -- asilvering (talk) 01:00, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- My read of the PD is that this remedy was intended to be applied to all discretionary sanctions regimes (at least one participant thought so). That intent is slightly confused by the prominent link in this specific remedy to the specific DS designation for IRANPOL.
- I do think it is more useful to focus on what to do with the remedy today. In that regard, WP:CT names no other specific "reasonable measures". This measure would be the first if we were to add it to the procedures.
- Two of the items in this remedy are present now in WP:STANDARDSET: topic bans (i.e. "bans on editors who have disrupted consensus-finding from participation in a particular RfC") and word limits (i.e. "word and/or diff limits on all RfC participants"), which leaves "sectioned commenting rules in RfCs" and "moratoria". "Moratoria" feels like it should require the AE consensus (or ARB consensus). Sectioned commenting rules also seems like it fits into "reasonable measures". So, here are some options?:
- add the two remaining items explicitly as examples of "reasonable measures" for AE consensus to ARBPRO,
- don't do that explicitly, leave the remedy alone
- don't do that explicitly, reword the remedy (DS -> CT, possibly clerkily)
- don't do that explicitly, remove the remedy (for any of a few reasons)
- I think either of 3 or 4 are the minimum, 1 is for if we think we want to start a list in ARBPRO about stuff a consensus can do but not an individual admin. I think I tend toward 4 also. Izno (talk) 17:33, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Unless an admin working in the topic area shows up soonish with a good reason not to go with 4, that seems simplest and best. -- asilvering (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with EW's
I strongly prefer the status quo of requiring a rough consensus at AE to make sure it's being done prudently.
My only question is whether this is subsequently worth clarifying (it probably is, just to remove the mention of DS if nothing else). Izno (talk) 16:39, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
Motion: terminating RfC moderation
Remedy 3 of Iranian politics ("RfC moderation") is terminated. Any actions previously taken in accordance with the remedy remain in force and are governed by the contentious topic procedure.
Support:
- Per my comment above. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:21, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Per mine above. Izno (talk) 19:01, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- asilvering (talk) 00:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 08:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Daniel (talk) 10:07, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Aoidh (talk) 11:06, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:17, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- --Guerillero Parlez Moi 19:02, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- As I understand it, these actions can be taken by a consensus of admins at AE these days, in which case I can see the benefit of removing bespoke authorisation from one topic area for housekeeping. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:54, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Oppose:
- I am failing to see the case to remove this. Especially now, when Iran is suddenly one of the worlds foremost concerns. I supported this remedy at the time, and the goal of encouraging admins to cut down on nonsense remains. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:15, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Abstain:
- I may get involved later on this one, but I don't wanna hold y'all up in the meantime :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Comments
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COIVRT block appeals
There is some debate among Committee members about when ArbCom should hear appeals from editors who are blocked based on evidence from the conflict of interest VRT queue. The three options I've thought of are given below, but I am open to other ideas! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:02, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
COIVRT block appeals: Clerk notes
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| ArbCom hears all appeals (live motion) | 3 | 1 | 0 | 4 | ||
| ArbCom hears appeals if COIVRTers believe that it would be better for ArbCom to hear the appeal (live motion) | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Notes
Draft motions: COIVRT block appeals
ArbCom hears all appealsWikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Handling of block and ban appeals is amended to read:
Administrators are advised that blocks labelled as conflict of interest VRT (COIVRT) blocks may not be lifted or loosened without the express written consent of someone with access to the queue or the Arbitration Committee. Like with oversight and checkuser blocks, administrators loosening or lifting COIVRT blocks out of process may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped. This is what we do for oversight blocks. Pros: buck stops with ArbCom. Cons: clunky, time-consuming, not transparent. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:02, 24 March 2026 (UTC) ArbCom hears appeals if COIVRTers disagree on the interpretation of the evidenceWikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Handling of block and ban appeals is amended to read:
Administrators are advised that blocks labelled as conflict of interest VRT (COIVRT) blocks may not be lifted or loosened without the express written consent of someone with access to the queue or the Arbitration Committee. Like with oversight and checkuser blocks, administrators loosening or lifting COIVRT blocks out of process may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped. This is what we do for checkuser blocks. Pros: less work (both for ArbCom and overall, because only one admin hears onwiki appeal), more transparent, and appeals generate edits for checkuser review. Cons: sort of ducking tough decisions. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:02, 24 March 2026 (UTC) ArbCom hears appeals after an unsuccessful on-wiki appealWikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Handling of block and ban appeals is amended to read:
Administrators are advised that blocks labelled as conflict of interest VRT (COIVRT) blocks may not be lifted or loosened without the express written consent of someone with access to the queue or the Arbitration Committee. Like with oversight and checkuser blocks, administrators loosening or lifting COIVRT blocks out of process may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped. This is adapted from the other proposal back in 2024 when we got CU blocks out of our wheelhouse. Pros: middle ground option, and maybe you get the best of both worlds. Cons: middle ground option (bothsides-y), and maybe you get the worst of both worlds. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:02, 24 March 2026 (UTC) ArbCom hears appeals if COIVRTers believe that it would be better for ArbCom to hear the appealWikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Handling of block and ban appeals is amended to read:
Administrators are advised that blocks labelled as conflict of interest VRT (COIVRT) blocks may not be lifted or loosened without the express written consent of someone with access to the queue or the Arbitration Committee. Like with oversight and checkuser blocks, administrators loosening or lifting COIVRT blocks out of process may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped. Arbitrator views and discussions
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Live motions: COIVRT block appeals
ArbCom hears all appeals (live motion)
Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Handling of block and ban appeals is amended to read:
The Arbitration Committee hears appeals from editors who are blocked or banned:
- by arbitration decisions;
- as arbitration enforcement actions;
- based on oversighted evidence;
- based on evidence from the conflict of interest VRT queue;
- based on CheckUser evidence, where checkusers disagree on the interpretation of that evidence; and
- for reasons that are otherwise unsuitable for public discussion.
It is expected that blocks marked as a CheckUser block are by default appealed on-wiki; however, the Arbitration Committee may hear appeals of such blocks if there are compelling reasons to hear an appeal in private.
Administrators are advised that blocks labelled as conflict of interest VRT (COIVRT) blocks may not be lifted or loosened without the express written consent of someone with access to the queue or the Arbitration Committee. Like with oversight and checkuser blocks, administrators loosening or lifting COIVRT blocks out of process may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped.
Support
- Distant second choice. I agree with asilvering that this can be handled more transparently onwiki, and I think the safeguard allowing COIVRT members to refer an appeal to us is sufficient. That being said, I think the only thing worse than hearing every appeal behind closed doors is doing so while also arguing about the proper venue for the appeal. Therefore, I support this as a second choice. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Minor preference to the other. Izno (talk) 22:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- First choice to the other. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:29, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Oppose
- I don't think sending these appeals through arbcom by default is a good use of anyone's time, including the blocked editor's time. -- asilvering (talk) 22:34, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Abstain
Arbitrator discussion
ArbCom hears appeals if COIVRTers believe that it would be better for ArbCom to hear the appeal (live motion)
Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Handling of block and ban appeals is amended to read:
The Arbitration Committee hears appeals from editors who are blocked or banned:
- by arbitration decisions;
- as arbitration enforcement actions;
- based on oversighted evidence;
- based on CheckUser evidence, where checkusers disagree on the interpretation of that evidence;
- based on evidence from the conflict of interest VRT queue, where members with access to the queue disagree on the interpretation of that evidence or believe the request would be better handled by the Arbitration Committee; and
- for reasons that are otherwise unsuitable for public discussion.
It is expected that CheckUser and conflict of interest VRT blocks are by default appealed on-wiki; however, the Arbitration Committee may hear appeals of such blocks if there are compelling reasons to hear an appeal in private.
Administrators are advised that blocks labelled as conflict of interest VRT (COIVRT) blocks may not be lifted or loosened without the express written consent of someone with access to the queue or the Arbitration Committee. Like with oversight and checkuser blocks, administrators loosening or lifting COIVRT blocks out of process may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped.
Support
- First choice. Sunlight is the best disinfectant for UPE (while, of course, respecting OUTING), and this will make it easier to appeal such blocks by widening the pool of people who routinely hear them. It is also much more efficient—only one COIVRTer would need to investigate an appeal, but ArbCom needs to corral a majority to act. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- I think the lightweight process of regular unblocks is best. Any unblocks patroller who notices one of these unblocks has gone too long without response can summon someone of the relevant perms with {{checkuser needed}}. asilvering (talk) 22:32, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Asilvering the right permissions yes, but not necessarily the right group - that's why we have the separate queue now. I don't think that's a good reason at all for having it on a talk page. Izno (talk) 22:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Minor not-preference to the other. Izno (talk) 22:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 00:22, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- --Guerillero Parlez Moi 04:35, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Second choice. Good enough, but I'm still not fully happy with foisting this onto to people who didn't sign up to review COIVRT blocks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:29, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Oppose
Abstain
Arbitrator discussion
Arbitrator views and discussions (live voting)
- Given this has been open for a week and we've got some great feedback (thank you to everyone who responded!), I've proposed the two options which appear to have non-zero amounts of support by arbitrators: either ArbCom hears all COIVRT appeals or ArbCom hears them when COIVRTers disagree on the interpretation of evidence or refer it to ArbCom for review. If someone supports one of the other draft motions, feel free to propose that for voting :) Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:20, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Community discussion
How many COIVRT appeals has ArbCom gotten in the year or so since Template:Uw-upeblock was updated? Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks to the work of Izno, we got 14 COIVRT appeals, out of 94 total appeals received. (But most of those appeals are summarily told to appeal on-wiki because their block is out of scope.) Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:28, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster Does "most of those appeals" refer to most of the COIVRT appeals, most of fthe total appeals, or both? Toadspike [Talk] 00:16, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- Should've been more clear. Most of the 94 total appeals are out of scope. Most of the COIVRT appeals were heard on the merits (though occasionally we have given non-binding advice to the appellant that they might get a faster response if they appeal onwiki). Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:19, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster Does "most of those appeals" refer to most of the COIVRT appeals, most of fthe total appeals, or both? Toadspike [Talk] 00:16, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
Is point f intended to expand Arbcom's power over blocks/bans? Or is it just intended to make what already happens more explicitly written down? 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 22:30, 24 March 2026 (UTC) Dumb question. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 16:23, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Point f is in the current procedures. Izno (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- What ArbCom decides to do is the boring part – the actual power is described at WP:ARBPOL § Scope and responsibilities, footnotes and links omitted:
The Arbitration Committee of the English Wikipedia has the following duties and responsibilities:
- To act as a final binding decision-maker primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve;
- To hear appeals from blocked, banned, or otherwise restricted users;
- To handle requests (other than self-requests) for removal of administrative tools;
- To resolve matters unsuitable for public discussion for privacy, legal, or similar reasons;
- To approve and remove access to (i) CheckUser and Oversight tools and (ii) mailing lists maintained by the Arbitration Committee.
- So 45dogs, I'm not sure what you mean by "expand"ing ArbCom's power over (reviewing) blocks/bans. That power is already unlimited since at least 2011. A fraction of it is in use. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
I think the status quo— which is basically number one— probably needs to stay. COIVRT blocks by nature involve evidence that cannot be easily talked about publicly, if it all. If someone is being blocked for evidence that was sent to COIVRT but is otherwise public, then the block shouldn’t be marked as a COIVRT block. This isn’t like CU block appeals, which rarely involve delving into non-public technicals; most COIVRT blocks involve some sort of OUTING element or otherwise have a lot of surrounding BEANS context. There’s no real good way to otherwise handle such private evidence outside of Arbcom; unless we get a separate mailing list for COIVRT appeals, one would have to privately talk to an individual COI agent if they wanted to discuss non-public evidence. This can be, and has been, problematic— it lacks transparency and peer input, and can lead to situations where important clarifications on evidence are lost if the involved functionary isn’t around anymore or diverges from the views of other functionaries in a problematic way. There was an incident not too long ago where a functionary publicly warned an editor for COI editing based on a COI ticket; that editor privately talked the warning down with the functionary, and the functionary later left the project. The COI got called into question again, and ended up being unresolved, as no one else had access to the private discussion. There’s some other BEANS reasons for why I don’t think devolving is a good idea, which I think some Arbcom members can figure out… unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that AC will have to handle. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:08, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
unless we get a separate mailing list for COIVRT appeals
– definitely spitballing here, but maybe there's a place for just having people appeal to paid-en-wp as a new ticket? For all VRT's faults, it does at least check a lot of the boxes you mention (privacy, a permanent archive, the possibility of peer review). I suppose it would need a backstop like "if you don't get a response in 30 days, you can go straight to ArbCom". Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:42, 25 March 2026 (UTC)- @Moneytrees, I'm surprised to hear you say this, since I've responded to on-wiki unblock requests for your COIVRT or COIVRT/SPI blocks and I'm sure you must have done at least one of mine, and I don't think we had much of a problem. In the event that there is an issue, we've always got the "unsuitable for public discussion" bit handy and can refer unblock requests to arbcom. Personally I prefer HB's #2 option, though I'd change the line to "where members with access to the queue disagree on the interpretation of that evidence or believe the request would be better handled at arbcom" to make that explicit. -- asilvering (talk) 01:44, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Asilvering That is a good point; looking over my UPE blocks, more are for socks of already banned masters than I initially realized. I was more worried about how this would go for more established editors who end up getting blocked (thinking about cases like User:PaulPachad, User:MaskedSinger, User:Jamiebuba and such), and how a case like that might put undue pressure on a VRT agent, but I think your provision would help prevent that from happening. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:26, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- And indeed, one of those three now has an arbcom block and can't be handled by COIVRT anyway. -- asilvering (talk) 02:33, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Asilvering That is a good point; looking over my UPE blocks, more are for socks of already banned masters than I initially realized. I was more worried about how this would go for more established editors who end up getting blocked (thinking about cases like User:PaulPachad, User:MaskedSinger, User:Jamiebuba and such), and how a case like that might put undue pressure on a VRT agent, but I think your provision would help prevent that from happening. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:26, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
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Requested action: Multiple non-extended-confirmed users are violating the restriction in place on discussing this topic (Arab–Israeli conflict related). Namely, User:RealFactChecker101, who has 35 edits, was already warned three times of the contentious topic on their talk page, and continued to violate the restriction thereafter. User:Editorofwiki9998 has 68 edits, and has also been actively participating in discussions in violation of the restriction; I've just warned them of the contentious topic prior to making this request. Requesting that comments made by non-extended-confirmed users be marked or striked. 9ninety (talk) 11:26, 2 March 2026 (UTC) Note: updated link following page move 13:54, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
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Requested action: Permission gaming. See their talk. 🐈Cinaroot 💬 09:18, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
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Yet another Gaza Genocide move request
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Snow Close: WP:PIA area RM. Vast majority of responses are snow close, there is nothing fundamentally changed. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 00:15, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
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Page protection: This is an article currently displayed on the main page about a hospital being airstriked leading to mass civilian casualties, and it's part of a conflict taking place in a region designated as a contentious topic area (WP:CT/SA). If this isn't high risk I'm not sure what is. ―Maltazarian (talkinvestigate) 09:51, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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Requestion action: User made a rapid number of small edits adding links before immediately editing the caste group Regar. EC needs to be revoked. 1brianm7 (talk) 18:28, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
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2026 Iranian supreme leader election
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Requestion action: @Robertsky:, I saw that you extended-protected the 2026 Iranian supreme leader election article. Can you please change that to semi-protected status as its pageviews and edit number has significantly dropped. Similar to 2020 United States presidential election, 2016 United States presidential election etc. RexFaux (talk) 23:35, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
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Rejoy2003
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Request concerning Rejoy2003
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- SerChevalerie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 07:26, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Rejoy2003 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
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- 17 March 2026 Added "Citizenship: Indian (from 1961)" on Premanand Lotlikar, in direct violation of their sanction to not add "Indian and/or Portuguese nationality designations". Note that this is WP:OR.
- 18 March 2026 Same behaviour on M. Boyer
- 16 March 2026 Same behaviour on Maestro Josinho
- 15 March 2026 Same behaviour on Krishna Moyo
- 11 March 2026 Added info on Portuguese citizenship at JoeGoaUk
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- Special:Diff/1326739812 User has an active sanction against them
- If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)
- Previously given a discretionary sanction or contentious topic restriction or warned for conduct in the area of conflict at Special:Diff/1326739812 by Rosguill (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).
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User has been warned multiple times of this behaviour. I was hoping that this would stop after the sanctions, but this has unfortunately continued. I am also concerned about WP:BLP issues at JoeGoaUk, previously discussed at Talk:JoeGoaUk/Archive 1.
- I understand that the timing of this may seem so but this is an issue that I have previously brought up with the user multiple times on each respective page, to which they have never responded positively. I had hoped that this behaviour would improve after the sanctions but here we are, and my main concern here is the WP:OR. Rest assured, I am here to build an encyclopedia and do not intend any further action against the user if they keep away from the nationality/citizenship edits in this topic area as suggested. I would be even happier if they simply understand where they are going wrong and maybe even get the sanctions reverted. SerChevalerie (talk) 19:29, 19 March 2026 (UTC) Please comment in your own section. Valereee (talk) 19:45, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Asilvering, @Black Kite and @Rosguill, I do not wish for an IBAN since we are both active editors of WP:GOA, which is already very small. As stated above, I am willing to settle my differences with the user. As previously discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1179#Constantly_being_stalked_by_User:SerChevalerie, this was not the user's first attempt at getting me banned, and we were both told that we cannot get the other editor banned from the WikiProject. However, I am willing to offer an olive branch here to continue our respective work in this small topic area. SerChevalerie (talk) 20:29, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Asilvering, my olive branch is simple: I am tired of every edit of mine being assumed to be in bad faith, leading to a retaliation and another forum complaint. @Rejoy2003 and I are both interested in a topic area and all I ask is that they are willing to accept that we both are here to build an encyclopedia and follow what advice has been given to them by not just me but others (on this AE thread and the above linked ANI thread). Why the WP:COI complaints were a shock to me is because both of us were actively editing pages like that of Frederick Noronha, our mentor in this common Wikipedia user group, before one-sided evidence was submitted that only I have the COI. As was pointed out at ANI, we are the only two editors on the project, but not every disagreement must lead to an escalation, and I am willing to coordinate on the Talk page of every such article in case of a disagreement. From my end I have always maintained that they have contributed in the creation of a large number of pages on Wikipedia and am willing to hear them out about their concerns with my editing and work upon those. SerChevalerie (talk) 04:59, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Rejoy2003, I am now presenting an olive branch: I definitely do not want either of us to get blocked, and I am willing to fix my past problematic behaviour. I made my comments because getting another editor from the project banned is acting in bad faith, but I'm willing to move past this. Thanks. SerChevalerie (talk) 07:08, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Asilvering, I am at my word limit here. May I request for a word limit increase? SerChevalerie (talk) 07:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Rejoy2003, I am now presenting an olive branch: I definitely do not want either of us to get blocked, and I am willing to fix my past problematic behaviour. I made my comments because getting another editor from the project banned is acting in bad faith, but I'm willing to move past this. Thanks. SerChevalerie (talk) 07:08, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Asilvering, my olive branch is simple: I am tired of every edit of mine being assumed to be in bad faith, leading to a retaliation and another forum complaint. @Rejoy2003 and I are both interested in a topic area and all I ask is that they are willing to accept that we both are here to build an encyclopedia and follow what advice has been given to them by not just me but others (on this AE thread and the above linked ANI thread). Why the WP:COI complaints were a shock to me is because both of us were actively editing pages like that of Frederick Noronha, our mentor in this common Wikipedia user group, before one-sided evidence was submitted that only I have the COI. As was pointed out at ANI, we are the only two editors on the project, but not every disagreement must lead to an escalation, and I am willing to coordinate on the Talk page of every such article in case of a disagreement. From my end I have always maintained that they have contributed in the creation of a large number of pages on Wikipedia and am willing to hear them out about their concerns with my editing and work upon those. SerChevalerie (talk) 04:59, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Asilvering, @Black Kite and @Rosguill, I do not wish for an IBAN since we are both active editors of WP:GOA, which is already very small. As stated above, I am willing to settle my differences with the user. As previously discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1179#Constantly_being_stalked_by_User:SerChevalerie, this was not the user's first attempt at getting me banned, and we were both told that we cannot get the other editor banned from the WikiProject. However, I am willing to offer an olive branch here to continue our respective work in this small topic area. SerChevalerie (talk) 20:29, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Timeline:
1. Special:Diff/1341061618: I clean up Viresh Borkar, who is in the news
2. Special:Diff/1341073352: User retaliates, removing sourced content on Gerald Pereira with no explanation. I then restore content; I have since declared my COI here.
3. Special:Diff/1341487738: User files WP:ARC against me (rejected)
4. User files COIVRT against me; I am now unblocked.
When the both of us are part of WP:GOA, which Viresh Borkar comes under, why did the user choose to escalate? This felt like getting me banned in bad faith, out of retaliation. (I reiterate: I am willing to let this go.) SerChevalerie (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- Requesting another 50 words. SerChevalerie (talk) 03:19, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- Accepted, @Valereee and @Vanamonde93. I care more about the project, and agree to stay away from their edits, as suggested instead of IBAN. Request that @Rejoy2003 reconsider; we may disagree but we both care about the project, deeply so. Also, happy with their positive behaviour here wrt TBAN. SerChevalerie (talk) 05:24, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- Requesting 25 words to understand how 2-way IBAN works. SerChevalerie (talk) 18:25, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- Don't think either of us understands how many pages this restricts us from editing. How is this calculated? Enforced? "Come back together", how, if we can't interact? Also, can I still use Wikipedia Library? SerChevalerie (talk) 07:18, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Also, can I appeal for a logged warning for us both, instead of the IBAN? We're both not WP:DE. Obviously ok with a ban if this escalates, which I promise it won't. SerChevalerie (talk) 09:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Accepted @Rejoy2003. SerChevalerie (talk) 18:57, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Also, can I appeal for a logged warning for us both, instead of the IBAN? We're both not WP:DE. Obviously ok with a ban if this escalates, which I promise it won't. SerChevalerie (talk) 09:27, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Don't think either of us understands how many pages this restricts us from editing. How is this calculated? Enforced? "Come back together", how, if we can't interact? Also, can I still use Wikipedia Library? SerChevalerie (talk) 07:18, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- Requesting 25 words to understand how 2-way IBAN works. SerChevalerie (talk) 18:25, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- Accepted, @Valereee and @Vanamonde93. I care more about the project, and agree to stay away from their edits, as suggested instead of IBAN. Request that @Rejoy2003 reconsider; we may disagree but we both care about the project, deeply so. Also, happy with their positive behaviour here wrt TBAN. SerChevalerie (talk) 05:24, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
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Statement by Rejoy2003
The sanction was placed because I advocated for Portuguese nationality at BD in its lead section. And the sanction explicitly states "from Indian and/or Portuguese nationality designations
". Emphasis should be made on "Nationality designations". The OP has plainly manipulated with the above examples wherein I simply stated the obvious there which was "citizenship" of the subject's country of birth as can be seen at Premanand Lotlikar and in no means advocated for pushed for Portuguese nationality which was a violation of WP:OR, which I completely understand now.Rejoy2003(talk) 10:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Black Kite I am a little confused. I had pushed for Portuguese nationality on Goans born and dead before 1961 it was deemed as textbook OR, which I was completely unaware of. But how can we ignore when multiple reliable sources for example Lotlikar literally say he is "Indian". I haven't added anything new from my side, it was simply in coordination with Indian nationality law which states Goans were designated as Indians as soon as the annexation took place in 1961. Or is it still WP:OR despite not advocating for other nationalities here? Rejoy2003(talk) 11:40, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Black Kite I agree with you, if source says Indian he is Indian. I didn't do these edits in bad faith, if you were to ask why what's the motive for it? I merely used the same reference to Mahatma Gandhi. Now I know the "nationality" parameters have been depreciated if I am not wrong it must be after my sanction was placed last year in December. If you had seen on Gandhi's article it said in the citizenship parameter British Raj (until 1947), Dominion of India (from 1947). Now how sure are we that there were references that actually said that? because the last time I checked it was unreferenced. And the topic ban was made mainly because I pushed for Portuguese nationality confused about how WP:OR works around these corners. And I would be happy to learn more because I have more questions regarding nationality and Goans. I know I should had atleast asked an admin before adding the years but I am willing to fix this problem. I tried to appeal before but still had questions with how these nationalities work on Wikipedia , but unfortunately this editor didn't wanted to answer more of my questions. Until later when I was busy in this to which this Arb request was filed in the first place as a reaction. I am open to learning more on these nationality and citizenship issues and editing constructively, perhaps you could help me with this?Rejoy2003(talk) 12:10, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Black Kite I want to learn more about this to be really honest as many of my questions have been unanswered. But at this point, like you have said I think I should clearly stay away from any aspects of nationality and citizenship areas and I would like to do that so. Speaking about SerChevalerie, as many of us are aware this is a retributive filing taken as a revenge to which the filler was blocked. I completely disagree to the statements made by them. FN did NOT serve as my mentor nor have I ever met this person in real life nor do I know much about him, in contrast to SC, WP:COIVRT is aware. The same goes with SerChevalerie, I never met this person as well. The Wikipedians Goa User Group they are talking about is a whatsapp group I was part of something along the lines of "Wikipedians of Goa". I never met anyone from there nor do I know anyone personally. Well SC statements above may seem "peaceful", I rather believe it is to save face for a re-block. I would like to mention he has advocated to kick me out of WP:GOA also showing WP:OWN behavior as evident here where he stated I have
"acted in bad faith against other editors."
The same can be seen here where he passed personal attacks on me stating"I cannot be trusted and actually been working against the interests of our group".
He then retracted his statements later . SerChevalerie passing such statements within hours of getting unblocked clearly seems like for revenge against me. I find this actions to be deeply disturbing when I have given my heart and soul to WP:GOA. I just cant let such personal attacks slide.Rejoy2003(talk) 06:21, 20 March 2026 (UTC)- GP is on my watchlist. I edit fast and across many Goan articles and tend not to leave edit summaries usually, I did here . I find the same article to be inflated and pushed everywhere obviously because of SC's COI and have evidence for it if anyone needs. Rejoy2003(talk) 06:32, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- Two-way iban, me okay. Reoccurring problem. Can't let this pass . Stalking remarks? Willing to share report to @Asilvering who started. Rejoy2003(talk) 17:26, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 I am looking for a one-way iban, given their past circumstances. Willing to carry the can for a two-way for Goa. Rejoy2003(talk) 07:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie I am willing to accept your olive branch, provided you stay true to your words "
agree to stay away from their edits
" and this means especially where I have been a significant contributor. Anyone looking at the EIA knows, you have always come out of nowhere and edited articles where I have been a major contributor. It has always been a problem now and then for almost 2 years. Rejoy2003(talk) 18:20, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie I am willing to accept your olive branch, provided you stay true to your words "
- @Vanamonde93 I am looking for a one-way iban, given their past circumstances. Willing to carry the can for a two-way for Goa. Rejoy2003(talk) 07:55, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- Two-way iban, me okay. Reoccurring problem. Can't let this pass . Stalking remarks? Willing to share report to @Asilvering who started. Rejoy2003(talk) 17:26, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- GP is on my watchlist. I edit fast and across many Goan articles and tend not to leave edit summaries usually, I did here . I find the same article to be inflated and pushed everywhere obviously because of SC's COI and have evidence for it if anyone needs. Rejoy2003(talk) 06:32, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Black Kite I am a little confused. I had pushed for Portuguese nationality on Goans born and dead before 1961 it was deemed as textbook OR, which I was completely unaware of. But how can we ignore when multiple reliable sources for example Lotlikar literally say he is "Indian". I haven't added anything new from my side, it was simply in coordination with Indian nationality law which states Goans were designated as Indians as soon as the annexation took place in 1961. Or is it still WP:OR despite not advocating for other nationalities here? Rejoy2003(talk) 11:40, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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Result concerning Rejoy2003
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Well, that appears to be a very obvious breach of the sanction imposed. I'd be interested to see the rationale for it. Black Kite (talk) 09:59, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Rejoy2003 There are a number of issues here. Firstly, your sanction was "broadly construed" and I am sure that most people would agree that this would include citizenship designations. Secondly, part of the issue for which you were sanctioned was adding this material without any sources, and I see this is still happening in some of these cases. Thirdly, I'm looking at the example Premanand Lotlikar who was 7 years old when India invaded Goa. I think we'd need a source to say he immediately became an Indian citizen at this precise moment? Black Kite (talk) 11:33, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- If multiple reliable sources say that Lotlikar has Indian citizenship then it shouldn't be difficult to add them. But the main issue here is that you shouldn't be messing with these descriptors, that was the whole point of the topic ban. Black Kite (talk) 11:48, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Rejoy2003 I think you just need to agree to stay away from nationality/citizenship edits in this topic area. This does not bar you from other edits about Goa and its people. Black Kite (talk) 19:06, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- This is very clearly a retributive filing and I am contemplating reblocking the filer. We may need to set a two-way iban here. -- asilvering (talk) 16:54, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Indeed it is, but it is not without merit. I have suggested to Rejoy2003 above that they just need to keep away from the area and we'll be good. Pinging Rosguill as the admin that performed the original topic ban. Black Kite (talk) 19:04, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- This looks like a clear topic ban violation to me. I don't immediately see the basis for calling the filing retributive, asilvering, Black Kite, what's leading you to that conclusion? signed, Rosguill talk 19:22, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- I am assuming it is because of this edit which led to the filer's COI block. Black Kite (talk) 19:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. I think particularly the exchange of 1, 2, followed by this filing is pretty clear-cut retaliation, although Rejoy2003's response vis-a-vis the COI concern also seems excessively rude, so I feel a bit more sympathetic to SerChevalerie given the circumstances. If there is an IBAN to be imposed, two-way does seem appropriate. Beyond that, Rejoy2003's argument that citizenship is somehow distinct from nationality falls flat--while they're not synonymous, they are definitely related, and thus covered by the topic ban's broadly construed provision. Taken together with their recent attempt to appeal their sanction to me, which quickly devolved into wikilawyering and failing to get the point, I'm left favoring a block and/or a broadening of the sanction, as the current scope is clearly not sufficient for addressing disruption related to nationality. signed, Rosguill talk 20:18, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- Diff 2 is the same as 1, I think you probably meant this?
- The discussion on your user is dismaying. "Help me understand" is basically a more polite "I think you're wrong and will keep questioning until I get the answer I want". Valereee (talk) 12:45, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. I think particularly the exchange of 1, 2, followed by this filing is pretty clear-cut retaliation, although Rejoy2003's response vis-a-vis the COI concern also seems excessively rude, so I feel a bit more sympathetic to SerChevalerie given the circumstances. If there is an IBAN to be imposed, two-way does seem appropriate. Beyond that, Rejoy2003's argument that citizenship is somehow distinct from nationality falls flat--while they're not synonymous, they are definitely related, and thus covered by the topic ban's broadly construed provision. Taken together with their recent attempt to appeal their sanction to me, which quickly devolved into wikilawyering and failing to get the point, I'm left favoring a block and/or a broadening of the sanction, as the current scope is clearly not sufficient for addressing disruption related to nationality. signed, Rosguill talk 20:18, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- I am assuming it is because of this edit which led to the filer's COI block. Black Kite (talk) 19:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie, I agree that a mutual iban would be quite difficult. This EIA is huge: . But to my understanding, this dispute between you has been going on for some time. You were trading COI notices more than a year ago already. What would this olive branch look like? Why would @Rejoy2003 accept it? And what olive branch would you need from them? -- asilvering (talk) 01:55, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie, can you give us a bit more context about
I made my comments because getting another editor from the project banned is acting in bad faith
, please? -- asilvering (talk) 07:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)- @Rejoy2003, you're already pretty far over. Go ahead and take an extension to 800 words for now. -- asilvering (talk) 22:12, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, they are under no obligation to describe the exact terms of their relationship with the COI topics. They have declared the COI, and that is enough. -- asilvering (talk) 13:14, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie, go for it. -- asilvering (talk) 03:35, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, a one-way is not on the table. You have been harassing SerChevalerie. I understand you to have also been harassed to at least some extent, but that doesn't give you a free pass to the same. -- asilvering (talk) 13:10, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie, ask away. -- asilvering (talk) 03:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, a one-way is not on the table. You have been harassing SerChevalerie. I understand you to have also been harassed to at least some extent, but that doesn't give you a free pass to the same. -- asilvering (talk) 13:10, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie, go for it. -- asilvering (talk) 03:35, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, they are under no obligation to describe the exact terms of their relationship with the COI topics. They have declared the COI, and that is enough. -- asilvering (talk) 13:14, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, you're already pretty far over. Go ahead and take an extension to 800 words for now. -- asilvering (talk) 22:12, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm kind of wondering how much of that EIA is from these editors following one another around? In general I dislike Ibans, but I think these two editors are going to have to decide what's more important to them:
- Working in the topic
- Policing the other editor's work in the topic
- I'd highly suggest the two of them start behaving as if an Iban is the next stop for them, because if they don't end up with one from this, it probably is. Unless you see something that is actually harmful to the project -- BLP vios, copyright vios, for instance -- leave the other editor's edits alone. Stop checking each others' work. Valereee (talk) 13:13, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- @SerChevalerie, can you give us a bit more context about
- Indeed it is, but it is not without merit. I have suggested to Rejoy2003 above that they just need to keep away from the area and we'll be good. Pinging Rosguill as the admin that performed the original topic ban. Black Kite (talk) 19:04, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- SerChevalerie, you can take another 100 words. Valereee (talk) 10:34, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, what is it that you need it for? You can take 25 words to explain. (Also you don't need to get that permission from me, every worker here is likely watching on and off.) Valereee (talk) 18:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, well, for beginners, start leaving useful edit summaries consistently. You are working in an area where you have ongoing friction with another editor. Stop trying to work fast and instead work smart: edit summaries are at least as important as the edits, especially in cases where you know another editor may disagree with you. And even the edit summaries you mention leaving such as "(irr)" when removing an entire section don't really explain anything. Irrelevant, I assume? Edit summaries are supposed to explain your thinking to other editors. Valereee (talk) 13:03, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Rejoy2003, what is it that you need it for? You can take 25 words to explain. (Also you don't need to get that permission from me, every worker here is likely watching on and off.) Valereee (talk) 18:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- The filing may be retaliatory but the TBAN violation is pretty clear cut. I am amenable to warning Rejoy2003 rather than blocking in the expectation that they will avoid further edits about Indian and Portuguese nationality or citizenship. I find the interaction history of these users quite concerning. The internal functioning of a group seeking affiliate status is outside our remit, but this does not make me hopeful that these editors will be able to get along. An IBAN is going to be difficult, but unless both editors are willing to make peace, it seems to be needed. Both editors should read the terms of such a sanction: it will severely restrict your ability to edit pages to which the other editor has been a major contributor. Vanamonde93 (talk) 23:26, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Black Kite, Asilvering, and Valereee: We need to give this closure. We don't have a mutual attempt to mend fences, and it seems to me a two-way IBAN is needed, along with a warning about the TBAN breaches. Thoughts? Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:59, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm happy with that. Stating for the record that I've received private communication from both that I will forward to arbcom so it's on file in case it's needed in the future. @Rejoy2003, @SerChevalerie, if this resolution is unsatisfactory and you wish to appeal or amend this, please contact arbcom instead of going through the normal AE process. -- asilvering (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe it'll help to let them deal with a 2-way iban within a topic they're both very focussed on to let them see the value of learning to work together? They can come back together in a few months and ask for it to be lifted if they like. Valereee (talk) 17:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed (sorry, I missed that ping). Black Kite (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- IBAN conditions are described at that shortcut. They are enforced, as with most TBANs, via vigilance from the whole community, including the banned parties. You aren't entirely prohibited from editing the same pages, but you are prohibited from reverting each others' edits in part or whole, and that includes rewriting content the other party wrote. This means that in practice you will find it very difficult to edit pages in which the other editor's contributions are extant. I cannot give further instruction on how to edit articles you have both previously edited; you need to not modify each other's edits, and whether you have done so will be judged on a case-by-case basis, and please note we pay attention to the spirit of the rule (you must avoid each other) and not just the letter. The exceptions to the ban are explained at WP:BANEX. I am not minded to ease this to a logged warning (though please note, an IBAN in some ways carries less social sanction than a logged warning) without mutual agreement. Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:46, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- The parties seem to have agreed between them that they will play nice without an iban. I'm a bit concerned this will simply become bickering at talk pages with no edit wars anyone else notices and no dragging anyone to drama boards...maybe that's okay? I dunno. Valereee (talk) 19:14, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Valereee: To be quite honest Rejoy's latest makes me more confident an IBAN is needed. There is still no recognition that their own conduct has fallen below expectations. But I suppose we can extend the rope a bit. I'd still like a logged warning for both. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:45, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Totally support a logged warning. My thought was that if they're already deciding they can manage this themselves, we'll just be dealing with a request from both to remove the iban as soon as they realize how onerous it is vs just trying to get along. I'm not optimistic. Valereee (talk) 21:07, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Well, let's go with the logged warning and cross our fingers. -- asilvering (talk) 21:23, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Totally support a logged warning. My thought was that if they're already deciding they can manage this themselves, we'll just be dealing with a request from both to remove the iban as soon as they realize how onerous it is vs just trying to get along. I'm not optimistic. Valereee (talk) 21:07, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Valereee: To be quite honest Rejoy's latest makes me more confident an IBAN is needed. There is still no recognition that their own conduct has fallen below expectations. But I suppose we can extend the rope a bit. I'd still like a logged warning for both. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:45, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- The parties seem to have agreed between them that they will play nice without an iban. I'm a bit concerned this will simply become bickering at talk pages with no edit wars anyone else notices and no dragging anyone to drama boards...maybe that's okay? I dunno. Valereee (talk) 19:14, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Gotitbro
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Request concerning Gotitbro
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Wisher08 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Gotitbro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- WP:CT/SA
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 18:02, 27 March 2026 - Clear failure to WP:AGF with the comment "
you deliberately falsified the consensus result, synthesised a false status and labelling of a source at RSP and are still defending that hoaxing
". - 01:14, 28 March 2026 - Continued failure of WP:AGF and actually violation of WP:BATTLE, given User:ActivelyDisinterested had already concluded "
I can't see any deliberate attempt to mislead. Discussion needs to return to the reliability of the source.
" Even the editor (the one with whom Gotitbro was interacted) had acknowledged his misunderstanding. Now instead of letting things go, Gotitbro continued to derail the discussion with continued battleground mentality by writing "You falsified a consensus and status (apparently merely a color according to you), and are still treating it as a no big deal.
" - 01:24, 28 March 2026 - continued WP:IDHT with WP:BATTLE. Worse is that it is written in response to another editor who told him to avoid this battleground behavior and another editor merely had a "misunderstanding". User:ActivelyDisinterested had to finally hat the discussion to avoid further derailing of the thread.
- 19:43, 29 March 2026 - Continued uncollaborative behavior. Asking "SNOWCLOSE" of a properly initiated RfC without any valid basis.
- Violation of 1RR (page notice) on Dhurandhar: The Revenge on 26 March 2026:
- Another violation of 1RR on Dhurandhar: The Revenge, this time on 29 - 30 March 2026:
- 05:51, 29 March 2026 More of the same WP:BATTLE and failure to WP:AGF.
- Made 4 reverts on Muridke during 8 March - 10 March:
- 13:32, 08 March 2026 (+727)
- 20:35, 10 March 2026 (+727)
- 20:40, 10 March 2026 (+727)
- 20:44, 10 March 2026 (+727)
- Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
- : "warned to provide full and clear justification for any reverts in their edit summaries, and to follow WP:BRD rather than making multiple reverts."
- Multiple blocks for edit warring until 2025.
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Discussion concerning Gotitbro
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Statement by Gotitbro
This is barely worth responding to, considering that it is a baseless retributive filing stemming from content disputes at one particular article (I have never interacted with this user before nor at the article where this stems from either). Dubious or worse malicious is the only way to describe this (trawling through editor histories to find something to nail at AE).
- RSN: An editor when asked to clarify why they faked RfC results and reliability status when editing the RSP list doubled down claiming it was only a change of color and nothing to be bothered about. The comments followed after. At the same RSN thread an RfC was initiated for another source (which I too agreed wasn't really reliable) for which there seemed to be general agreement about its unreliability, opined a snowclose as the RfC appeared unnecessary and non-specific.
- Dhurandhar: The Revenge (the article from where this retributive filing stems from) [the 1RR pertaining to the lead]: of the first these (, ) only the latter is a "revert" for addition of unsourced info (with no editor ever having challenged this basic edit then or since); of the second of these (, ) the first of these was challenging a contentious label which I followed with a discussion at the Talk page (discussion ongoing), the second of these pertained to an edit marked as a revert () but which wasn't actually so. 1RR was neither intended nor I believe manifested in either case and would/would've retract[ed] any of these if so informed.
- Muridke: The first of these was reverting a vandal blanking of content by a new account. The latter pertain to another editor who restored that blanking without any valid explanation () then continued doing so asking for consensus despite there being one very well against their prior attempts at blanking (discussions can be seen at Talk and at NPOVN). The user then took this to ANI with no further engagement with that baseless report. Should've been more calmer and somber here with the edits but basic neglection of prior discussions and consensus to double down on vandal blankings by new accounts was debilitating.
Though the previous blocks are hardly relevant, will address. Two of the previous blocks came while dealing with blocked IPs and sock accounts. The last one (at an article for an extremist publisher) from my own report for an editor acting against sources and consensus (see Talk). This is not a defence against those blocks but the context should be seen. Gotitbro (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
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Result concerning Gotitbro
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- Across the evidence presented here, the only thing I see that warrants concern would be the edit warring, particularly at Muridke. Note that the 1RR restriction at Dhurandhar only applies to the lead and short description--it does not appear that the diffs displayed here show any violations of that. The 26 March diffs only include one edit to the lead (the other is to the Critical response section of the article), whereas the March 29-30 edits appear to have occurred over the span of 31 hours, so 1RR does not apply. I think that the SNOWCLOSE !vote was ill-considered in context but I'd be hard-pressed to consider a sanction on that basis. The comments at RSP seem understandable in context, even with some room for disagreement, and the final few diffs of supposed lack of AGF on the 10th and 29th do not in my view rise to the level of disruption. In general, this report also suffers from a lack of timeliness, what with the reporting of supposed edit wars that had already died down weeks ago. At most, I could see issuing a logged warning for the edit warring at Muridke, but even that may be excessive. signed, Rosguill talk 20:07, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
