Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs

Vince Vance & the Valiants

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3 sources are included the entire page, AllMusic source is generally unreliable (see WP:ALLMUSIC). Entire infobox is unsourced, albums section and charting part of the table is unsourced. shane (talk to me if you want!) 15:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

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Keep a WP:BEFORE search in Google has several sources. , , , . .-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 17:13, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
Keep Two notable songs that presumably charted, plus a recent lawsuit, are enough for notability. Kelob2678 (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
Keep with hit songs passing criteria 2 of WP:NMUSIC. The link you posted for AllMusic is no consensus not generally unreliable and most music editors find it reliable, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:36, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Night of the Living Shred

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For the same reasons as discussed by myself and others at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guitar Dominance!, another album by the same musician. The musician does not have his own article which raises WP:A9 concerns, and a couple of brief reviews help a little but not enough to support an encyclopedic article on the album. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:53, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

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DELETE per nom. Maineartists (talk) 16:07, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Comment - Musician article exists now at Joe Stump, also there is a short review by Lollipop Magazine: . --Mika1h (talk) 20:26, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Whether or not Stump is eligible for his own article, outside of the previous Alcatrazz, can be a different discussion and I'm not so sure about his individual notability. But since his article has now been created, I'm willing to accept a standard redirect of the two album articles to there. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:05, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Cha Cha Cha (Bruno Mars song)

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Article created in a rush, filled with album reviews that lack any substance, most of them being one paragraph short.

Chart positions don't grant a song notability, plus they are top 30 and over.

No awards received and not independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:31, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

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Comment: @MarioSoulTruthFan: Note that not all non-singles have to win awards to be notable. I will say that this is what MC-123 is known for, just overall creating music-related articles. No opinion, though. Red Shell Momentum 01:14, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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Merge to The Romantic (album). The charting does provide some notability, but there appears to be little coverage of the song independent of the album to substantiate it. Merge or redirect is fine. ← Metallurgist (talk) 04:27, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Keep This idea that charts mean nothing and that three reviews are enough to sustain an article needs to end.--Markus WikiEditor (talk) 15:39, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
I didn't say that charts mean nothing, only that they "don't grant a song notability" and they are non-revelant peaks top 30 and above. This wasn't exactly top 10 WW MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:23, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. Trumpetrep (talk) 03:44, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

God Was Showing Off

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Article created in a rush, filled with album reviews that lack any substance, most of them being one setence. Only Billboard and Shatter the Standards )reliability?) seems to go more in depth.

Chart positions don't grant a song notability, plus they are top 30 and over.

No awards received and not independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

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The Wood of Morois

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Does not meet WP:NALBUM, only sources are discogs and self published. Orange sticker (talk) 08:45, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

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Keep: I added a few more sources... There are numerous articles on wikipedia wit only ONE source so I don't understand why we deny this album exists? CarnalCAN (talk) 13:39, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
No one is denying the album exists, however to have an article on Wikipedia a subject must meet notability standards, in this case the ones set out in WP:NALBUM. Orange sticker (talk) 14:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFF. Cortador (talk) 15:41, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Speedy delete per WP:A9. Author also has a strong recent history of vandalism. WidgetKid ^Converse 14:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:30, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete The album is an obvious hoax, probably created by me CarnalCAN (talk) 21:46, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

ToBeFree, given no opposition, can we close this AfD by vandal? WidgetKid ^Converse 00:22, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Probably, but I don't close deletion discussions as a matter of principle as I promised not to do so back in 2019 in my RfA. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:24, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Guitar Dominance!

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Nothing is notable about this entry. Artist is not notable. Album is not notable. Fails all music notability guidelines. Cannot find any RS. Maineartists (talk) 21:55, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Night of the Living Shred for an article on another album by the same musician. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:46, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

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~~Delete~~ Redirect to Joe Stump - Didn't find anything else anything besides the AllMusic review. The artist actually might be notable (many borderline notable solo albums) and normally non-notable albums should be redirected to artist article but in this case it should be deleted unless someone is willing to create the article. --Mika1h (talk) 23:15, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete. Not much of anything out there, and [this] doesn't cut it. Also no good redirect target, as artist not notable. WidgetKid ^Converse 04:11, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete - Per WP:A9 we can assume that if the musician has no article, then the notability of that person's albums should be viewed suspiciously unless there are significant pro reviews and other coverage. This album is only visible in the usual streaming services and minor websites where users can post their own reviews. The AllMusic review mentioned in the article helps and it is from a pro reviewer with editorial oversight, but it's just one possible source and more are necessary for an encyclopedic article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:50, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Now that an article on Stump has been created (see below), I can go with a standard redirect of both the album articles to there. I think Stump's individual notability (outside of Alcatrazz) needs to be examined too, but that can be a different discussion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:07, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Comment - Musician article now exists at Joe Stump. --Mika1h (talk) 20:24, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

List of Vocaloid songs

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This list is fundamentally unmaintainable. My separate arguments are as follows:

"Vocaloid songs" is not a simple category, but rather an impossibly broad one. Vocaloid is a software, closer to an instrument. Quite a popular one at that, with over 100 different characters/voicebanks. It is not a genre, nor is it a specific artist. In theory, a "List of songs using Vocaloid" can be argued as of broad as a category as "List of songs that use guitars" or "List of films edited using Adobe Premiere Pro". And even more broad than categories we've ruled out as too broad like "List of rock songs".
1. And while I'm sure that, somehow, an WP:NLIST argument could be made, the broadness of this article is so large that I'd argue the page fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, and there are better alternatives that I will outline below.
The article, as is, has no clear inclusion criteria. It appears to be based on songs that we have individual articles for, judging by the terminology of "Notable songs". However, using Wikipedia slang in a mainspace article is asking for trouble. Whatever a "notable song" is jargon to a leeway reader. No attempt at what a "notable song" is is clarified to the reader. Furthermore, even if that were clarified, it likely would not have foundation in Wikipedia policy as any experienced editor should know that the threshold of receiving inclusion somewhere on Wikipedia is much lower than what is typically required for a standalone article. Unless we invoke WP:CSC, although I think that's something that'd have to come out of consensus, as opposed to this page's apparent mashing together of marginally related songs.
There are better options to covering Vocaloid songs as a group, or particularly noteworthy ones. My initial thoughts point towards something like a list of songs using specific Vocaloids (e.g. "List of songs with Hatsune Miku"), which while still very broad would be much more maintainable (one voicebank versus over a hundred). Or, an article centered around the Niconico Vocaloid Songs Top 20 chart and then another article for songs that reached number-one on it, a format with far more precedent on Wikipedia (e.g. Mainstream Rock (chart) and List of Billboard Mainstream Rock number-one songs of the 2020s). A third option, though likely the least ideal, is a list of songs in a rhythm game focused around Vocaloid like Hatsune Miku: Project Diva, if we truly wanted to cover these songs somewhere.
While I know that quality issues are not a reason for deletion in most cases, I would still like to point out that this article is relatively uninformative to the point where, even if ruled out as a notable concept, wouldn't have anything worth preserving. There are two sentences of original writing here; everything else is a copy paste of a song article's lead sentence. A category is more informative. λ NegativeMP1 01:37, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

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Delete. Category:Vocaloid songs already exists, that should be good enough. 162 etc. (talk) 05:33, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Note: The main reason why i created this article is because I wanted to make sure there was a list of popular vocaloid songs which were popular enough to have SOME sources but not to have a full article. But user Discospinster decided to remove half of the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Vocaloid_songs&oldid=1325395412 I do take apology here for using YouTube as a source.
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Delete: I agree with the nominator. This list could include anyone from Hatsune Miku, through Kanye West to Wendy Carlos. It is completely WP:INDISCRIMINATE. No criteria for inclusion is included in the article, which leaves the reader guessing as to what actually counts... 11WB (talk) 18:59, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete. Nominator has outlined the problems very well. As it stands, this list is WP:INDISCRIMINATE and extremely broad with no clear inclusion criteria. It is better suited to a category. If somebody wanted to make "List of songs in the Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA series" to make a better attempt at covering popular Vocaloid songs together, I think that might have enough sources to meet NLIST. MidnightMayhem (talk) 20:41, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Paprikaiser (talk) 22:10, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete - No reason for keeping this list. Azuredivay (talk) 20:47, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete- Agree with nom's points, so that if a similar theme of 'listing' of songs utilizing the Vocaloid software, would be more mainainable in the long run as the library grows further.Lorraine Crane (talk) 00:37, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Super Stars '05 – Wibtada El Mishwar

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Unsourced since 2006. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NALBUM; redirect to SuperStar (Arabic TV series)#SuperStar 2 (2004) as an ATD? thejiujiangdragon 🔥🐉 03:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

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Redirect to SuperStar (Arabic TV series) as WP:ATD. WidgetKid ^Converse 04:50, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Selam Podrinju

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Unsourced since 2006. Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG; redirect to Sateliti as an ATD? thejiujiangdragon 🔥🐉 03:32, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

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Redirect per nomination. I think this is an uncontroversial redirect that could have been boldly done per WP:BLAR, but of course, soliciting input is good too! Dreamyshade (talk) 21:13, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
~~Delete~~. I could find no WP:SIGCOV. I would have said redirect, but the artist appears non-notable as well. I just created an AfD for that article. WidgetKid ^Converse 05:07, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Redirect to Sateliti as WP:ATD. WidgetKid ^Converse 23:24, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Redirect-agree with nom s points, as an ATD, not finding enough SIGCOV for standalone notability.Lorraine Crane (talk) 01:37, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Redirect to Sateliti. Nighfidelity (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Girth (album)

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Unsourced since November 2006. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSONG; Encyclopedia Metallum is not a reliable source. Can be redirected to Winter's Bane. thejiujiangdragon 🔥🐉 01:58, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

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Comment: I only find Vampster [de]' review: Geschichte (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
Redirect to Winter's Bane#Discography as WP:ATD. There's almost no coverage of this album, just sources showing that WP:ITEXISTS or not WP:RS like WP:BLOGs. WidgetKid ^Converse 05:10, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Redirect to Winter's Bane Discography. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:27, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Redirect to Winter's Bane#Discography as an ATD. No additional SIGCOV found so far.Lorraine Crane (talk) 02:37, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Stand Up (For the Champions)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSIC; unsourced since October 2006. Can be redirected to Stand Up (Right Said Fred album) as a WP:ATD. thejiujiangdragon 🔥🐉 23:13, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

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Keep per my attempt at WP:HEY. Not sure if it's enough, but I found a few sources. It seems pretty well established that this is used by many sports teams and leagues around the world. WidgetKid ^Converse 01:06, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
Keep - assuming in good faith that they had an "ichiban" number 1 hit in Japan, the song passes. Bearian (talk) 03:23, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Dang it, @Bearian, you had to say the magic word (ASSume ). I can't find an independent source to indicate they actually hit #1 in Japan. It's on all sorts of things published by the band, but it doesn't line-up with what's on List of Oricon number-one singles of 2002 (ref), nor on J-Wave's 2002 chart. Maybe most telling - the WP JP article doesn't have that fact. I think we may need to remove it from the article. WidgetKid ^Converse 04:16, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
"Say it isn't so, Joe!" Bearian (talk) 11:13, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Merge into Stand Up two reliable sources (not sure about the other three) can be summarized on the album page. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:12, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Keep notable song.--Markus WikiEditor (talk) 16:10, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Mirage (The Geminus album)

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WP:TOOSOON; I'd redirect to the band bur their article has been draftified due to possinle lack of notability TheLongTone (talk) 16:10, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

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Delete - I can't find any WP:RS about this album Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:18, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete due to lack of any independent coverage at all. No good redirect options as WP:ATD either. WidgetKid ^Converse 00:12, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete Fails WP:NALBUM with what I can find. Iljhgtn (they/them · talk) 18:14, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete due to lack of reliable sources. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:21, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Delete No sources and no notability for the band either. Agnieszka653 (talk) 19:07, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Gimme What I Don't Know (I Want)

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Not seeing coverage of this outside of the album. Laun chba ller 23:17, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

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Delete per nom; please ping me if sources to the contrary appear. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:05, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Keep, no major changes since last deletion discussion. However if a consensus against keeping the page emerges this time, it should be redirected to The 20/20 Experience – 2 of 2 as an ATD. मल्ल (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Svartner (talk) 00:44, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Servite et contribuere (talk) 01:51, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Keep per WP:NSONG as it has charted. If sourcing is interpreted very liberally, one can argue that a few of the album reviews satisfy WP:100WORDS and that this is a GNG pass, that coverage of the song is confined to album reviews in itself is not a disqualifying factor. Finally, this page has a "Good Article" label, and I don't see how the deletion would improve the encyclopedia. Kelob2678 (talk) 19:55, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Saying how an article should not be deleted because it improves the encyclopedia is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions. Being a GA also does not mean immunity from deletion: GAs, and even FAs, have been deleted or redirected/merged in the past for various reasons. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:40, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

The main policy-based argument is that it charted in South Korea, so it is reasonable to presume that there is some in-depth coverage in Korean; this presumption cannot be realistically rebutted, as there are no editors who are knowledgeable enough and have access to South Korean music media.

Regarding WP:ATA, I checked the essay and, to my surprise, it mentions GA only in two instances, both contain the implicit assumption that GAs are presumed notable: While comparing with other articles is not, in general, a convincing argument comparing with ... Good article ... makes a much more credible case. and If a user is disrupting the encyclopedia by ... continually nominating good articles for deletion. The GAs I saw deleted are usually about fictional characters, they have no SNG and, in general, AfD is harsh toward in-universe descriptions. An example of a recent AfD similar to this is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mindful (song), which was kept even though the page failed NSONG, not to mention GNG. Kelob2678 (talk) 00:05, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:26, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Keep found this discussion through the DYK nom. I initially intended to !vote delete, but Kelob2678 makes some good points which I haven't seen anyone comment against yet. I also don't see how this article's deletion would improve the project. Johnson524 21:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Keep: This idea that charts mean nothing and that three reviews are enough to sustain an article needs to stop. They do that with my article of the Aaron Carter's single "Sooner or Later", which was redirected.--Markus WikiEditor (talk) 15:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs

Albums and songs

Vince Vance & the Valiants

Night of the Living Shred

Cha Cha Cha (Bruno Mars song)

God Was Showing Off

The Wood of Morois

Guitar Dominance!

List of Vocaloid songs

Super Stars '05 – Wibtada El Mishwar

Selam Podrinju

Girth (album)

Stand Up (For the Champions)

Mirage (The Geminus album)

Gimme What I Don't Know (I Want)

Album and song proposed deletions

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