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You made the comment on Draft:WTF!: Wrestling's Trashiest Fighters: This submission is part of a larger effort to get articles about RuPaul's Drag Race episodes restored to the main space. This episode has received in-depth reviews by multiple independent and reliable sources (I've included a few in the table below) and the article is long enough to justify a fork from the season page. What is the history? In particular, were these episodes previously in article space, and when? Also, has there been discussion at the season article talk pages? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:24, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon There have been several discussions at various venues, including here on my user talk page above, but I think these would offer the most helpful context:
Yes, many articles were previously in the main space, but I moved them into the draft space voluntarily at the request of others for further development. I have been going through the process of expanding and resubmitting the drafts at AfC. Since November, all ~40 submitted drafts were accepted by uninvolved editors. I'll say little else and let you and others review the discussions and form your own conclusions. I hope these offer helpful context but let me know if you have other questions. Thanks and Happy New Year! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:39, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

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Thank you for responding. I saw a discussion at WikiProject Television and tried to respond to it, and I think that at least one editor didn't understand what I was trying to say, and I think that I was incorrectly criticized. I had been looking for what was the consensus at the WikiProject about the RuPaul's Drag Race drafts, and I see that there isn't and won't be a consensus. Unless you ask me to wait, I am about to start accepting the episode drafts, and will let the community decide which of them they think pass episode notability. I was waiting for you to reply at WikiProject Television, but it appears that you are, probably wisely, avoiding involvement in that discussion. Should I go ahead and start accepting the drafts? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:07, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I do not think it is appropriate for me to have an opinion re: how the drafts should be reviewed, or who should review them. I've made it clear I am going to continue submitting drafts at AfC because I am confident there are many notable episodes, despite a couple other editors saying otherwise ad nauseam and as evidenced by the 40+ drafts accepted thus far. In my opinion, all of these episode entries could be improved to resemble "And the Rest Is Drag". I don't understand the determination to prevent this from happening. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:47, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
My opinion, as I have stated at WikiProject Television, is that the project is divided, so that there is no local consensus, and I would prefer to see the decision about notability made by the community rather than by the lack of a local consensus. As you can see, I have accepted 7 drafts. One is under review by another reviewer. I am not aware of any other episode drafts that are currently waiting for review. If you call my attention to any of them, I will review them. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:32, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
You write: I don't understand the determination to prevent this from happening.. I think I understand it well enough to know what I am disagreeing with. First, I think that some editors don't like drag. They generally won't say so. Second, I can see that some editors think that we have too many low quality articles. I don't think that this category includes the drafts in question, but they may think so. Third, I think that some editors think that episode articles should be a rare exception. We can and do disagree, but I think that is why they are opposed. If they want to know what the community thinks , that is what a consensus process such as AFD is for. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:32, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon Thanks for being among the 20 editors who have accepted one or more Drag Race episode drafts. I am pleased to see so many entries restored and I am going to continue expanding and submitting drafts for review. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:00, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

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@SocDoneLeft Thank you! Fun fact: This is the 100th draft about a Drag Race episode to be accepted at AfC since November. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:52, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
They call it Drag Race for a reason! Thanks for your speedy work! SocDoneLeft (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

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@CostalCal Thanks!, you might be interested in Draft:Diwali in Portland, Oregon and Draft:Hanukkah in Portland, Oregon, too! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:03, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

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Thank you! --Another Believer (Talk) 14:40, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

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Halloween in Portland, Oregon

Thank you for your patience. I hope my work was sufficient. :) HarbingerOfEntropy (talk) 05:44, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello! I noticed you made a rollback on all of my edits for this article. Is there anything I specifically did in my copyediting that was wrong or needs improvement? I'm just curious because all of my work was overwritten. HarbingerOfEntropy (talk) 13:34, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
@HarbingerOfEntropy Thanks for the review! I plan to implement some of your changes, but unfortunately your edits made some of the content inaccurate. I also feel like some of the content was removed unnecessarily. I appreciate the review, though! ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:45, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
Ah my greatest apologies about the misinformation, that was entirely unintentional. Thank you for making what I did clear! I’ll try my best to be more attentive to future articles I edit. HarbingerOfEntropy (talk) 15:00, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

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@CostalCal Any excuse for a slice of my fave: Pumpkin pie! Thanks for the review! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:33, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Would easily eat that Pumpkin Pie! The reason I keep reviewing your articles is that it's so eye-opening how you combine community and knowledge into one article. Not many users have that ability. CostalCal (talk) 22:43, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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Thanks! Pleased to see the 110th AfC acceptance for Drag Race episodes. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:17, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

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